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Insomnia

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Question:

Any suggestions for one on Lithium, Nardil and Respiradol for past two years who suddenly wakes up every two hours and can’t get back to sleep? Valerian has helped some.

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I thought I had bipolar disorder, but it turned out to be hypoglycemia (low blood sugar.) Both can cause insomnia. The low blood sugar causes the adrenal glands to work overtime, and the adrenelin keeps you awake. If you are really manic than you should be on lithium, which calms you down and makes it less likely you will fall into a severe depression after the manic phase. (However if you have been misdiagnosed and have hypoglycemia instead of bipolar disorder the lithium will make it worse.) When I have an adrenalin rush I find that a cup of chamomile tea with a valerian pill helps me a lot. If you would like more information about herbs for insomnia feel free to contact me.

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ok, I just heard that coffee sometimes is useful when one carefully takes it in right amount. It helps in constipation too esp. when there is bloody in stool. Coffee can help to rush out the wasted stuffs after we eat it without letting it dry very fast. Water, no matter how large in amount we take won’t help preventing constipation much because intestines takes in alot of water, leaving the wastes dry and making it harder to pass out. Fruit esp paper & tomato also help. So does cereal etc. Lydia

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This really isn’t all that strange. They give hyperactive and ADD kids stimulants to calm them down. My mother-in-law treated my brother-in-law with coffee after Ritalin really screwed him up. High caffiene and sugar sodas calm me down also. Kimber

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, My name is Tina, I’m into drinking very strong coffee to. Alot of it . Think I’m > hooked and high of the stuff. Well I guess it’s better than being addicted on street > drugs. I’ve been there once already so compared to the drugs, coffee is a harmless > and very effective way to still let you experience that wonderful rush feeling and it > won’t kill you. At least I don’t think. Are you BP, and are you taking meds? I am. > Anyhow, if you need an extra friend to write to,I’ll be here. Take care Robert.Hope > to hear from you. Bye. > Gothic female, Tina > >By the way, what is espresso? > Its like super coffee, It tastes like about like double > strength coffee left on the pot for about 4 hours. > It`s quite good actually

I think most BP’s have an abnormally strong reaction to coffee. I remember always wondering why people thought coke was so great since coffee did the same thing and wasn’t as uncomfortable. Right before I got on meds when I was in this horrible mixed state but still sleeping some, a lot of coffee in the evening would kick me into euphoric manic till dawn with a price to pay the next day. But it was so tempting that I can see how people get addicted to crack, to get so high that I no longer hear that noise in my head because I’m too busy dancing around and kicking the walls for fun. Aurora

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I think being sedated by stimulants is an ADD symptom. Certainly doesn’t happen for me unless I’m really manic. But then it’s probably the milk in the latte that’s doing it. Don’t ask me why I’m ordering a latte when I’m really manic, but it was good for me to take in some nutrition. Aurora – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cinda, I thought the more coffee we drink, the more caffeine would be built > inside us and probably even in our brain. Don’t know. I once drank coffee for > burning midnite oil often before till I experienced a sudden of emotional > numbness, coffee seemed not to work anymore but only made me twice tired. > > I don’t know about other people but I can, and do, drink coffee and Coke > > just before bedtime. In fact, I use them to wash down the meds. Then I > > lay down and go right to sleep–not sleeping is not one of my > > problems–this is not a result of the meds, either. I did this before I > > was diagnosed as well. > Isn’t water the best drink? Let’s discuss that. > — > I have experienced sedative effects from caffeine as well. when i was younger i > would wake up and not be able to fall asleep again; i would chug a whole can of > mountain dew and fall right to sleep. i found this paradox amazing. even now, > if i drink something with caffeine and sugar (not just caffeine, like coffee) it > has a sedating effect. > I don’t think anyone would argue about water being the best drink, though it’s > never put me to sleep.

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> About Caffeine, I can drink 3 or more cups of coffee and fall asleep. It’s > usually when I’m on Lithium but I don’t feel drowsy with caffeine when I’m > not on my regular dose of Lamictal. I don’t know if I feel "Numb" but I do > feel the same as I do when I’m on Kolonipin (sp?). Drowsy feeling.

Right after it started working I found that I could give up caffeine, I guess it had been numbing the white noise somewhat, now that I think about it that’s what I used it for. After I was brought down from this mixed state Li made me so tired that I needed a little kick-start Now I am mostly on Lamictal and have more energy but still like a little caffeine here and there, but I do notice the beginnings of hypomania creeping in. Ah, temptation. Aurora

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I too am a java lover. I drink almost two pots of coffee a day.. For awhile there, I really needed it in the morning to offsett the sluggishness from my meds. Now< I just crave it all the time. > Isn’t water the best drink? Let’s discuss that.>> —

For all of you that can get past the coffee, WATER is the best thing for you. Eight or more glasses a day should be considered minimum. You need the water to flush your system of impurities. It also helps to maintain a healthy weight. It makes you feel fuller, so then you eat less,right(?). Coffee or caffiene beverages are not considered part of your eight glasses a day becauseof the negative effects of caffeine. Caffiene as a stimulant, also stimulates hunger. Drinking water is good for your skin. It is easier on your kidneys than caffienated bev. You just need it. As part of your eight glasses of water a day you can substitute natural juices and should have your milk too as a source of calcium for bone development and maintenance. A great beverage is orange juice with calcium added. You get your vitamin c, calcium and liquid. If you drink orange juice with a meal it increases the absorption of iron , calcium and other important vitamims and minerals in the food that may be lost otherwise . Never underestimate the power of good nutrition and your health. I think I will go get myself a tall sparkling glass of ice water now—hint—hint…pam

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Exactly, I can defently hear you. I can relate to what you wrote. Sometimes theres ocassional anger with that rage feeling for me when I drink heavenly strong hyperspeed coffee. Straight from the bean, grind then brew. Finally add some ice, and enjoy. OOOOAhhhhh soooo darn good!! Fill it to the brim and I’m on my way to a different demention. A galaxy far far away. You get the idea. Bye. Always here if anyone cares to write. In this Sanitarium…….I clutch onto nothingness, …..Tina – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, My name is Tina, I’m into drinking very strong coffee to. Alot of it . Think I’m > hooked and high of the stuff. Well I guess it’s better than being addicted on street > drugs. I’ve been there once already so compared to the drugs, coffee is a harmless > and very effective way to still let you experience that wonderful rush feeling and it > won’t kill you. At least I don’t think. Are you BP, and are you taking meds? I am. > Anyhow, if you need an extra friend to write to,I’ll be here. Take care Robert.Hope > to hear from you. Bye. > Gothic female, Tina > > >By the way, what is espresso? > > Its like super coffee, It tastes like about like double > > strength coffee left on the pot for about 4 hours. > > It`s quite good actually > I think most BP’s have an abnormally strong reaction to coffee. I > remember always wondering why people thought coke was so great since > coffee did the same thing and wasn’t as uncomfortable. > Right before I got on meds when I was in this horrible mixed state but > still sleeping some, a lot of coffee in the evening would kick me into > euphoric manic till dawn with a price to pay the next day. But it was > so tempting that I can see how people get addicted to crack, to get so > high that I no longer hear that noise in my head because I’m too busy > dancing around and kicking the walls for fun. > Aurora

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>By the way, what is espresso?

Its like super coffee, It tastes like about like double strength coffee left on the pot for about 4 hours. It`s quite good actually Remove the **** for your emailing pleasure

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Hi, My name is Tina, I’m into drinking very strong coffee to. Alot of it . Think I’m hooked and high of the stuff. Well I guess it’s better than being addicted on street drugs. I’ve been there once already so compared to the drugs, coffee is a harmless and very effective way to still let you experience that wonderful rush feeling and it won’t kill you. At least I don’t think. Are you BP, and are you taking meds? I am. Anyhow, if you need an extra friend to write to,I’ll be here. Take care Robert.Hope to hear from you. Bye. Gothic female, Tina – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->By the way, what is espresso? > Its like super coffee, It tastes like about like double > strength coffee left on the pot for about 4 hours. > It`s quite good actually > Remove the **** for your emailing pleasure

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cinda, I thought the more coffee we drink, the more caffeine would be built > inside us and probably even in our brain. Don’t know. I once drank coffee for > burning midnite oil often before till I experienced a sudden of emotional > numbness, coffee seemed not to work anymore but only made me twice tired. > I don’t know about other people but I can, and do, drink coffee and Coke > just before bedtime. In fact, I use them to wash down the meds. Then I > lay down and go right to sleep–not sleeping is not one of my > problems–this is not a result of the meds, either. I did this before I > was diagnosed as well. > Isn’t water the best drink? Let’s discuss that. > —

I have experienced sedative effects from caffeine as well. when i was younger i would wake up and not be able to fall asleep again; i would chug a whole can of mountain dew and fall right to sleep. i found this paradox amazing. even now, if i drink something with caffeine and sugar (not just caffeine, like coffee) it has a sedating effect. I don’t think anyone would argue about water being the best drink, though it’s never put me to sleep.

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How exactly do you experience these sedative effects from caffeine ? I have noticed that the `white head-noise’ feeling, which definitely makes me agitated and restless decreases upon drinking a few cups of coffee, making me feel more relaxed (maybe pleasantly numb ?). I do not experience caffeine as a real sedative, though. GreetinX X X Bas p.s: Still wanting to be comfortably numbed . . . DE DIGITALE STAD

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About Caffeine, I can drink 3 or more cups of coffee and fall asleep. It’s usually when I’m on Lithium but I don’t feel drowsy with caffeine when I’m not on my regular dose of Lamictal. I don’t know if I feel "Numb" but I do feel the same as I do when I’m on Kolonipin (sp?). Drowsy feeling. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How exactly do you experience these sedative effects from caffeine ? I > have noticed that the `white head-noise’ feeling, which definitely makes > me agitated and restless decreases upon drinking a few cups of coffee, > making me feel more relaxed (maybe pleasantly numb ?). I do not experience > caffeine as a real sedative, though. > GreetinX > X > X > Bas > p.s: Still wanting to be comfortably numbed . . . > DE DIGITALE STAD

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> The average cup of coffee has about 100mg of caffeine, a cup of espresso has > about 3 -4 times that. If someone (like I used to) drinks 3 espressos in the > morning before work, and then 2 pots at work, they have consumed about 2000mg > of caffeine. I thought that drinking all that coffee before 11 am was okay. > Well, he explained that caffeine has a half life of 8 hours. That means that > eight hours later I still had 1000mg of caffeine in my system, and 8 hours > after that I still had 500mg. That is the equvalent of 5 cups of coffee. > Then, less than 8 hours after that, I would start the cycle all over again. > Didn’t take me too long to figure out why I wasn’t sleeping so well at night.

One more thing – how come the coffee no longer had no effect on me but only leaving me twice tired the last time after frequent coffee-drink for late studying?

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I am not too sure the exact cause(s) of insomnia. Are they the worries or/and caffeine that found in coffee, tea? Lydia

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> I am not too sure the exact cause(s) of insomnia. > Are they the worries or/and caffeine that found in coffee, tea? > Lydia

Could be either, could also be brain chemistry. Aurora

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> I am not too sure the exact cause(s) of insomnia. > Are they the worries or/and caffeine that found in coffee, tea? > Lydia

I don’t know about other people but I can, and do, drink coffee and Coke just before bedtime. In fact, I use them to wash down the meds. Then I lay down and go right to sleep–not sleeping is not one of my problems–this is not a result of the meds, either. I did this before I was diagnosed as well. Cinda Take care of yourself, you’re worth it.

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Cinda, I thought the more coffee we drink, the more caffeine would be built inside us and probably even in our brain. Don’t know. I once drank coffee for burning midnite oil often before till I experienced a sudden of emotional numbness, coffee seemed not to work anymore but only made me twice tired. > I don’t know about other people but I can, and do, drink coffee and Coke > just before bedtime. In fact, I use them to wash down the meds. Then I > lay down and go right to sleep–not sleeping is not one of my > problems–this is not a result of the meds, either. I did this before I > was diagnosed as well.

Isn’t water the best drink? Let’s discuss that. — http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/5620/

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My doctor explained the way caffeine works like this: The average cup of coffee has about 100mg of caffeine, a cup of espresso has about 3 -4 times that. If someone (like I used to) drinks 3 espressos in the morning before work, and then 2 pots at work, they have consumed about 2000mg of caffeine. I thought that drinking all that coffee before 11 am was okay. Well, he explained that caffeine has a half life of 8 hours. That means that eight hours later I still had 1000mg of caffeine in my system, and 8 hours after that I still had 500mg. That is the equvalent of 5 cups of coffee. Then, less than 8 hours after that, I would start the cycle all over again. Didn’t take me too long to figure out why I wasn’t sleeping so well at night. Shannan

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> The average cup of coffee has about 100mg of caffeine, a cup of espresso has

By the way, what is espresso? > about 3 -4 times that. If someone (like I used to) drinks 3 espressos in the

3 packets you mean? > morning before work, and then 2 pots at work, they have consumed about 2000mg > of caffeine. I thought that drinking all that coffee before 11 am was okay. > Well, he explained that caffeine has a half life of 8 hours. That means that > eight hours later I still had 1000mg of caffeine in my system, and 8 hours > after that I still had 500mg. That is the equvalent of 5 cups of coffee. > Then, less than 8 hours after that, I would start the cycle all over again. > Didn’t take me too long to figure out why I wasn’t sleeping so well at night.

wow! Lydia

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Cover songs

admin — Wed, 03 Jul 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Ozzy doing "Staying alive"?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> All of you people know how much I love the covers. It’s a wonderful way to > try different rhythm patterns, different styles… > ABBA revisited by Helloween… > Ozzy Osbourne by Pat Boone, and so on… > And the last one I found is the tribute to Deep Purple by TM Stevens. > OH… MY… GOD ! > Ever played Smoke on the water with a distorted bass sound ? (and a slight > wah ?) The verses are propelled by a wonderful slap rhytm, and a few > touches > of guitar. > Child in time a la reggae… > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > Not at all.I’m partial to inventive covers myself,as long as they add > something to the original instead of murdering it.I’ve got two different > covers of one of my favourite Richard Thompson songs ‘Wall of Death’.One by > REM and one by a country and western duo.They’re both good imo.And then > there’s Paul Young’s excellent job of Marvin Gayes ‘Wherever I Lay My Hat’, > with Pino featuring. > As for different styles,the best example I can give is ‘Powderfinger’ by the > Cowboy Junkies.Compared to Neil Young thrashing away on the original,it’s > almost a different song. > There is a dark side though – Rolf Harris doing ‘Stairway to Heaven’… > SR

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> And since it’s from the 80’s a lot of the tracks are > dancable, too.

But I refuse to wear Spandex. — Rik Osborne "What are we lookin’ for? Mo’ Bass! Mo’ Bass!" — UTFO

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Heavy Metal or no metal at all! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Manowar is amazing. Death to false metal!! > Remember, "Other bands play. Manowar kills." > — > Rik Osborne > > "What are we lookin’ for? Mo’ Bass! Mo’ Bass!" — UTFO

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Someone out there needs to start covering some 80’s "Slease metal" – Faster Pussycat, Dirty Looks, Bang Tango, stuff like that. Great tunes, more attitude than you can stand, a lyrics that will make everyone look at you and say, "What???" And since it’s from the 80’s a lot of the tracks are dancable, too. — Nick Cassimatis There is more than one way to skin a cat, so you’ll go through a lot of cats figuring them all out.

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I really dig some of Govt Mule’s covers…She Said, She Said and 30 Days in the Hole especially – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > All of you people know how much I love the covers. It’s a wonderful way to > try different rhythm patterns, different styles… > ABBA revisited by Helloween… > Ozzy Osbourne by Pat Boone, and so on… > And the last one I found is the tribute to Deep Purple by TM Stevens. > OH… MY… GOD ! > Ever played Smoke on the water with a distorted bass sound ? (and a slight > wah ?) The verses are propelled by a wonderful slap rhytm, and a few touches > of guitar. > Child in time a la reggae… > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > — > Henry > I don’t know anything about music. In my line you don’t have to. –Elvis > Presley > Improvisation: the art of thinking and performing music > simultaneously. –Grove Dictionary of Music (1954) > You can reach me at henryhpaul at wanadoo dot fr

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Manowar is amazing. Death to false metal!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Years ago I heard a rumor of a Stan Kenton Big Band album where they play > the music of Richard Wagner but I’ve never seen any mention of it on any > discography. I don’t suppose anyone can shed any light on this? Or is it > just an urban myth? > There’s a rather obscure metal band called Manowar that makes music heavily > influenced by Wagner. > Incidentally, this group has an astounding bass player, Joey DeMaio. Ever > hear somebody play classical guitar on an 8-string bass? He did bass solo > renditions of the William Tell Overture ("William’s Tale") and Flight of the > Bumblebee ("Sting of the Bumblebee"). > Rik

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> Manowar is amazing. Death to false metal!!

Remember, "Other bands play. Manowar kills." — Rik Osborne "What are we lookin’ for? Mo’ Bass! Mo’ Bass!" — UTFO

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>All of you people know how much I love the covers. It’s a wonderful way to >try different rhythm patterns, different styles… >ABBA revisited by Helloween… >Ozzy Osbourne by Pat Boone, and so on… >And the last one I found is the tribute to Deep Purple by TM Stevens. >OH… MY… GOD ! >Ever played Smoke on the water with a distorted bass sound ? (and a slight >wah ?) The verses are propelled by a wonderful slap rhytm, and a few touches >of guitar. >Child in time a la reggae… >I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it.

I’m all for people twisting song, making them their own. Although if there’s one thing that *really* annoys me, its bands who cover song EXACTLY THE SAME. Don’t get me wrong I’m not talking about little band our new bands, but bands who are fairly big anyway. Cheers ~chris~ — "A song is a beautiful lie" ~Idlewild~

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I don’t know who it was but I heard an interesting cover of "Hush" the other day while I was in Staples office supply. — Bud LeCompte http://budlecompte.com

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> Years ago I heard a rumor of a Stan Kenton Big Band album where they play > the music of Richard Wagner but I’ve never seen any mention of it on any > discography. I don’t suppose anyone can shed any light on this? Or is it > just an urban myth?

There’s a rather obscure metal band called Manowar that makes music heavily influenced by Wagner. Incidentally, this group has an astounding bass player, Joey DeMaio. Ever hear somebody play classical guitar on an 8-string bass? He did bass solo renditions of the William Tell Overture ("William’s Tale") and Flight of the Bumblebee ("Sting of the Bumblebee"). Rik

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Yeah, I’ve heard of them and heard them. They kick Ass. Talk about cross over. lol

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered > the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this?

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> > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered > the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this?

A bluegrass-ish band known as "Luther Wright and the Wrongs" just covered the entire Pink Floyd "The Wall" album and called it "Rebuilding the Wall". Its a pretty funny concept, too. John

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> > > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered > the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this? > I dunno but that’s pretty funny…

Well, the album is actually called "Hayseed Dixie: A Hillbilly Tribute to AC/DC". Sound samples on Amazon’s page: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005CCB0/qid=1025730020/sr=8…

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Another one is "Brave Combo" from North Texas. -Rankin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LOL! Just downloaded and listened to HD’s versions of "Fat Bottom Girls", > "Cat Scratch Fever" an "My Best Friend’s Girl". Very "clever" as they say > in these parts. > — > Bud LeCompte > http://budlecompte.com

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The best covers I’ve ever heard are from Frank Bennett. http://www.frankbennett.com/ Real classy stuff. Regards, Krayse —-

All of you people know how much I love the covers. It’s a wonderful way to try different rhythm patterns, different styles… ABBA revisited by Helloween… Ozzy Osbourne by Pat Boone, and so on… And the last one I found is the tribute to Deep Purple by TM Stevens. OH… MY… GOD ! Ever played Smoke on the water with a distorted bass sound ? (and a slight wah ?) The verses are propelled by a wonderful slap rhytm, and a few touches of guitar. Child in time a la reggae… I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. — Henry I don’t know anything about music. In my line you don’t have to. –Elvis Presley Improvisation: the art of thinking and performing music simultaneously. –Grove Dictionary of Music (1954) You can reach me at henryhpaul at wanadoo dot fr

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Years ago I heard a rumor of a Stan Kenton Big Band album where they play the music of Richard Wagner but I’ve never seen any mention of it on any discography. I don’t suppose anyone can shed any light on this? Or is it just an urban myth? — Dale Cruse www.dalecruse.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered > the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this? > I dunno but that’s pretty funny…

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If you like odd covers, have you ever heard the band Lounge Against the Machine? Lead singer Richard Cheese can make ANY tune into a sleazy lounge tune. Quite amusing. My favorite is their cover of Nirvana’s "Rape Me." — Dale Cruse www.dalecruse.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > All of you people know how much I love the covers. It’s a wonderful way to > try different rhythm patterns, different styles… > ABBA revisited by Helloween… > Ozzy Osbourne by Pat Boone, and so on… > And the last one I found is the tribute to Deep Purple by TM Stevens. > OH… MY… GOD ! > Ever played Smoke on the water with a distorted bass sound ? (and a slight > wah ?) The verses are propelled by a wonderful slap rhytm, and a few touches > of guitar. > Child in time a la reggae… > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > — > Henry > I don’t know anything about music. In my line you don’t have to. –Elvis > Presley > Improvisation: the art of thinking and performing music > simultaneously. –Grove Dictionary of Music (1954) > You can reach me at henryhpaul at wanadoo dot fr

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> > > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered > the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this?

Actually, the band is called "Hayseed Dixie". And they are funny. Kinda cool, too.

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The band is called "Hayseed Dixie" actually. They do a fantastic job of turning AC/DC tunes into bluegrass. http://hayseed-dixie.com/ Their new cd sounds pretty cool. I can’t wait to hear there cover of "My Best Friend’s Girl". — Bud LeCompte http://budlecompte.com

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LOL! Just downloaded and listened to HD’s versions of "Fat Bottom Girls", "Cat Scratch Fever" an "My Best Friend’s Girl". Very "clever" as they say in these parts. — Bud LeCompte http://budlecompte.com

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> I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it.

I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this?

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> > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it. > I once heard about an album called "AC Dixie", where a bluegrass band covered > the songs of AC/DC. Anybody heard about this?

I dunno but that’s pretty funny… — /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H / | http://www.toddh.net/ X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."

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> All of you people know how much I love the covers. It’s a wonderful way to > try different rhythm patterns, different styles… > ABBA revisited by Helloween… > Ozzy Osbourne by Pat Boone, and so on… > And the last one I found is the tribute to Deep Purple by TM Stevens. > OH… MY… GOD ! > Ever played Smoke on the water with a distorted bass sound ? (and a slight > wah ?) The verses are propelled by a wonderful slap rhytm, and a few touches > of guitar. > Child in time a la reggae… > I know some people here wish to kill me, but I can’t help it.

Not at all.I’m partial to inventive covers myself,as long as they add something to the original instead of murdering it.I’ve got two different covers of one of my favourite Richard Thompson songs ‘Wall of Death’.One by REM and one by a country and western duo.They’re both good imo.And then there’s Paul Young’s excellent job of Marvin Gayes ‘Wherever I Lay My Hat’, with Pino featuring. As for different styles,the best example I can give is ‘Powderfinger’ by the Cowboy Junkies.Compared to Neil Young thrashing away on the original,it’s almost a different song. There is a dark side though – Rolf Harris doing ‘Stairway to Heaven’… SR

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I've got a problem…

admin — Tue, 02 Jul 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

We could have used this info three years ago when our Suburban cooked the transmssion. To be fair we had no clue about tcc bore wear but we did experience "hard" 1- 2 shifts and slipping 2-3 shifts.Severe slipage at highway speeds in 4th od with reflecting high coolant temps was our clue something was amiss… The trans rebuilder was sure that the 3rd and 4th clutches and seals were toast and recomended a rebuild. With the unit on the bench torn down for inspection ,I noted that the afore mentioned clutches were not worn or glazed. I also noted the the condition of pressure regulating solenoid filter (clogged) after asking the tech some questions about the valve body.He proceded to move the valves where I noted one appeared stuck in the bore.I don’t remember which one though.The valve body was not changed to my knowledge. The trans fluid was burnt (a sign of heat) though the tech could not isolate the source…couldn’t see inside the converter… After many internals (steels for one) were replaced and solenoids and the toque converter and a shift improver kit too we have been running trouble free since. I do feel taken however because my questions re heat and valves and clutch condition were not answered. Does a shift improver kit really work in an adaptive unit? I can’t tell as I have not driven any other trucks with known good oem transmissions installed. Am I on the right track….does the powertrain control module "remember" operating conditions and then make adjustments accordingly? Rolf

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hey, I said ‘if you cannot monitor TC slip with a scan tool’ > obviously, you can and did > but I get at least two customers a month in here, who > couldn’t/wouldn’t/didn’t, but who went ahead and installed the Sonnax stuff > themselves, and are now PISSED that it STILL ‘doesn’t work’. > Gary, not meaning to dispute your vast knowledge of transmissions, but my > advice comes from direct experience. > TCC slip can be measured using a Tech 2. We ran one of my trucks with the > Tech 2 plugged in. It was showing about 120 rpm converter slip. I forget > the spec, but if the tranny slips at around 130 rpm for more than some > number of seconds (I think around 7), the P1870 code gets set and the > tranny > starts shifting hard. The problem is intermittant at first. My converter > was no doubt broaching those thresholds from time to time, resulting in > the > hard shifts I was getting. Thurman’s most likely is too. All I know is if > you take care of it before the converter wears too much, you can avoid > having replace or rebuild the unit. > Not to further confuse the issue, but Thurman’s ‘98 likely has a somewhat > modified tranny that comes with a carbon fibre torque converter. The > valving is a little different to permit greater slippage of the torque > converter during lock-up so I’d guess his converter can take more abuse > longer than my ‘97 could.. Even so, they still have the TCC bore wear > problem. > If Thurman can find someone with a Tech 2 to measure his converter slip, > then he can do the same as I did. All I know is, it took me a year to > figure out that this was the problem. Finally, a friend of mine who works > in product development at GM Hydramatic turned me on to the fix. > I took his advice, and it worked. > > > Gary, can you explain your comments so we can all learn from your > > expertise? > > > What part of knuckles advice do you disagree with? I have a > competent > > > tranny guy I go to but I like to sound at least halfway intelligent > when > I > > > talk to him. Thanks. > > I disagree with throwing parts (the Sonnax valve, in this case) at it if > you > > cannot monitor ‘TCC slip’ with a scan tool afterwards. > > All the Sonnax parts in the world will NOT fix a converter that has > slipped > > until the lock-up clutch material has glazed or burnt to a crisp. > > And, usually, by the time it is noticeable (code) it is past the point > of > a > > ’simple fix’, contrary to GM’s official ‘let us sell you a 700 dollar > valve > > body’ repair spiel.

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hey, I said ‘if you cannot monitor TC slip with a scan tool’ obviously, you can and did but I get at least two customers a month in here, who couldn’t/wouldn’t/didn’t, but who went ahead and installed the Sonnax stuff themselves, and are now PISSED that it STILL ‘doesn’t work’.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Gary, not meaning to dispute your vast knowledge of transmissions, but my > advice comes from direct experience. > TCC slip can be measured using a Tech 2. We ran one of my trucks with the > Tech 2 plugged in. It was showing about 120 rpm converter slip. I forget > the spec, but if the tranny slips at around 130 rpm for more than some > number of seconds (I think around 7), the P1870 code gets set and the tranny > starts shifting hard. The problem is intermittant at first. My converter > was no doubt broaching those thresholds from time to time, resulting in the > hard shifts I was getting. Thurman’s most likely is too. All I know is if > you take care of it before the converter wears too much, you can avoid > having replace or rebuild the unit. > Not to further confuse the issue, but Thurman’s ‘98 likely has a somewhat > modified tranny that comes with a carbon fibre torque converter. The > valving is a little different to permit greater slippage of the torque > converter during lock-up so I’d guess his converter can take more abuse > longer than my ‘97 could.. Even so, they still have the TCC bore wear > problem. > If Thurman can find someone with a Tech 2 to measure his converter slip, > then he can do the same as I did. All I know is, it took me a year to > figure out that this was the problem. Finally, a friend of mine who works > in product development at GM Hydramatic turned me on to the fix. > I took his advice, and it worked. > > Gary, can you explain your comments so we can all learn from your > expertise? > > What part of knuckles advice do you disagree with? I have a competent > > tranny guy I go to but I like to sound at least halfway intelligent when > I > > talk to him. Thanks. > I disagree with throwing parts (the Sonnax valve, in this case) at it if > you > cannot monitor ‘TCC slip’ with a scan tool afterwards. > All the Sonnax parts in the world will NOT fix a converter that has > slipped > until the lock-up clutch material has glazed or burnt to a crisp. > And, usually, by the time it is noticeable (code) it is past the point of > a > ’simple fix’, contrary to GM’s official ‘let us sell you a 700 dollar > valve > body’ repair spiel.

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Gary, not meaning to dispute your vast knowledge of transmissions, but my advice comes from direct experience. TCC slip can be measured using a Tech 2. We ran one of my trucks with the Tech 2 plugged in. It was showing about 120 rpm converter slip. I forget the spec, but if the tranny slips at around 130 rpm for more than some number of seconds (I think around 7), the P1870 code gets set and the tranny starts shifting hard. The problem is intermittant at first. My converter was no doubt broaching those thresholds from time to time, resulting in the hard shifts I was getting. Thurman’s most likely is too. All I know is if you take care of it before the converter wears too much, you can avoid having replace or rebuild the unit. Not to further confuse the issue, but Thurman’s ‘98 likely has a somewhat modified tranny that comes with a carbon fibre torque converter. The valving is a little different to permit greater slippage of the torque converter during lock-up so I’d guess his converter can take more abuse longer than my ‘97 could.. Even so, they still have the TCC bore wear problem. If Thurman can find someone with a Tech 2 to measure his converter slip, then he can do the same as I did. All I know is, it took me a year to figure out that this was the problem. Finally, a friend of mine who works in product development at GM Hydramatic turned me on to the fix. I took his advice, and it worked.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Gary, can you explain your comments so we can all learn from your > expertise? > What part of knuckles advice do you disagree with? I have a competent > tranny guy I go to but I like to sound at least halfway intelligent when I > talk to him. Thanks. > I disagree with throwing parts (the Sonnax valve, in this case) at it if you > cannot monitor ‘TCC slip’ with a scan tool afterwards. > All the Sonnax parts in the world will NOT fix a converter that has slipped > until the lock-up clutch material has glazed or burnt to a crisp. > And, usually, by the time it is noticeable (code) it is past the point of a > ’simple fix’, contrary to GM’s official ‘let us sell you a 700 dollar valve > body’ repair spiel.

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 1998 Chevy Blazer 4×4 4-door. Just bought it a few days ago. > Great vehicle, but sometimes (often) when I’m accelerating from a stop, I > get a "kick in the pants" when I hit second gear. The vehicle noticeably > jumps forward. > My first reaction was to think it was a loose motor (bad mounts) and that I > was feeling the clunk when the torque drops it (that had happened to me with > a previous vehicle). But then I figured that bad mounts wouldn’t make the > vehicle jump forward like it does. > Maybe I just need to get the transmission flushed? > Any suggestions or recommendations?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Look on the vacuum modulator on the trans or the rubber fittings either there or where it plums into the intake. A vacuum leak will cause your trans to shift at a higher rpm, and it will be harsher. Grease

1998 Chevy Blazer 4×4 4-door. Just bought it a few days ago. Great vehicle, but sometimes (often) when I’m accelerating from a stop, I get a "kick in the pants" when I hit second gear. The vehicle noticeably jumps forward. My first reaction was to think it was a loose motor (bad mounts) and that I was feeling the clunk when the torque drops it (that had happened to me with a previous vehicle). But then I figured that bad mounts wouldn’t make the vehicle jump forward like it does. Maybe I just need to get the transmission flushed? Any suggestions or recommendations?

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> Gary, can you explain your comments so we can all learn from your expertise? > What part of knuckles advice do you disagree with? I have a competent > tranny guy I go to but I like to sound at least halfway intelligent when I > talk to him. Thanks.

I disagree with throwing parts (the Sonnax valve, in this case) at it if you cannot monitor ‘TCC slip’ with a scan tool afterwards. All the Sonnax parts in the world will NOT fix a converter that has slipped until the lock-up clutch material has glazed or burnt to a crisp. And, usually, by the time it is noticeable (code) it is past the point of a ’simple fix’, contrary to GM’s official ‘let us sell you a 700 dollar valve body’ repair spiel.

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s > done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall > the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes > the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon > seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, > visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com. > yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip > when you are finished.

Gary, can you explain your comments so we can all learn from your expertise? What part of knuckles advice do you disagree with? I have a competent tranny guy I go to but I like to sound at least halfway intelligent when I talk to him. Thanks.

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I spoke with a guy at the dealer, and he said that late model autos have the ability to readjust themselves to new driving styles, and that the problem was probably related to that. He said that it would probably go away in a couple of days. Does that sound realistic, or am I being jived?

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They do talk like computer people, don’t they. Got their own language and everything! Seriously, your best shot is to find a local independent AT rebuilder who knows his stuff. Ask around. Visit the shop. Ask questions. If he doesn’t savvy the valve body deal, go elsewhere. Ask about warranties. Sometimes you can ask around at 4×4 shops and travel trailer shops for a good tranny mechanic. The owner of your local NAPA might be able to steer you to a good shop. You can always go the national rebuilder route too, like www.jetchip.com or www.tciauto.com. Pricey but good. Hint: If you ever buy another GM truck, get one with the 4L80E. It’s the old TH400 on steroids. I’ve tried, believe me, I’ve really tried, but you just can’t break them. Dean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: >>Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is >>harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a >>special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s >done, >>simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall >the >>valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as >well >>replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes >the >>hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the >TCC >>valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is >>accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and >insert >>the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon >seal >>that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, >visit >>Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com. >yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC >slip >when you are finished. >Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use >to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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A lot of us have had the same problem. You have a 4L60E transmission. It’s electronically controlled which means the shifts are solenoid actuated. They switched to an aluminum valve body. Previously the valve bodies had been cast iron. GM has, or had a problem with the TCC valve wearing the bore in the valve body. That’s what’s happening to you. If you go to your dealer and have him read the codes off your ECM they’ll no doubt tell you they’re getting a P1870 code. It’s a general code that means the ECM sensed an internal slippage. The hard shift is the result of the ECM commanding maximum line pressure in order to accomplish the shifts without burning up clutches. What’s happening internally is that the TCC, or Torque Converter Clutch valve has worn the bore and fluid is getting past it. This reduces pressure in the circuit that actuates the torque converter lock-up. If you don’t fix this, sooner or later you’ll be replacing your torque converter. Dealers who know what they’re doing will recommend a new valve body. It will come with a longer TCC valve -presumably this one will rock less in the bore and cause less wear. Clueless dealors will simply tell you to replace the transmission with a new Serta unit. The first option costes $400-500; the second upwards of $2,000. There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Look on the vacuum modulator on the trans or the rubber fittings either >there or where it plums into the intake. A vacuum leak will cause your trans >to shift at a higher rpm, and it will be harsher. >Grease >1998 Chevy Blazer 4×4 4-door. Just bought it a few days ago. >Great vehicle, but sometimes (often) when I’m accelerating from a stop, I >get a "kick in the pants" when I hit second gear. The vehicle noticeably >jumps forward. >My first reaction was to think it was a loose motor (bad mounts) and that >I >was feeling the clunk when the torque drops it (that had happened to me >with >a previous vehicle). But then I figured that bad mounts wouldn’t make the >vehicle jump forward like it does. >Maybe I just need to get the transmission flushed? >Any suggestions or recommendations?

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Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

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There have been ppl saying the same thing abt harsh 1-2 shifts on the full-size trucks … I think a computer update fixes it … don’t know if it would be the same on yours or not but just a thought

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It would depend on how fast you are accelerating, you maybe making the transmission "kick down" to a lower gear. If it’s not that, change the transmission fuild and filter, and put in a good synthetic fluid like Mobil 1 (they make an auto transmission fluid). If you dont have any luck, take it to a mechanic and have them check it out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >1998 Chevy Blazer 4×4 4-door. Just bought it a few days ago. >Great vehicle, but sometimes (often) when I’m accelerating from a stop, I >get a "kick in the pants" when I hit second gear. The vehicle noticeably >jumps forward. >My first reaction was to think it was a loose motor (bad mounts) and that I >was feeling the clunk when the torque drops it (that had happened to me with >a previous vehicle). But then I figured that bad mounts wouldn’t make the >vehicle jump forward like it does. >Maybe I just need to get the transmission flushed? >Any suggestions or recommendations?

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

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No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

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Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

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Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

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Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

Response:

No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

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OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

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It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

Response:

Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

Response:

Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

Response:

No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

Response:

OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

Response:

It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

Response:

Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

Response:

Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

Response:

No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

Response:

OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

Response:

It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

Response:

Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

Response:

Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

Response:

No problem. Here’s a link to a technical artical that discusses the subject. http://www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/TS-BW-699.pdf

Response:

OK. Should one, in your opinion, upgrade a tranny that’s still working right to avoid the problem or wait and plan on a complete rebuild when necessary (rather than "throwing parts at it")?

Response:

It was worth a shot, the end came off the trans on my hot rod, made the same problem. Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Maybe your truck has a shift commander (shift improver) on it that is set to the tow setting. — — 98 Camaro Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

Response:

Does anybody know of a good Transmission-to-English dictionary I could use to figure out what these guys are talking about?

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a third option if you want to do it right, and save some dough: > Sonnax makes a TCC valve kit that includes a new sleeve. The sleeve is > harder than the current bore. The kit costs around $65. You’ll need a > special reamer they sell for $75 to open up the TCC bore. Once that’s done, > simply insert the sleeve, put in the new spring and valve, and reinstall the > valve body. By the way, when you have the valve body out, you may as well > replace the TCC apply valve with Sonnax’s aftermarket valve. Sometimes the > hard shift can come from failure of this part but most often it’s the TCC > valve. The TCC "Apply" valve is located in the pump itself, and is > accessable with the valve body out. Just pull the old one out, and insert > the new replacement. The new one fits the bore better and has a teflon seal > that the OEM part doesn’t have. It’s about $35. For more informaion, visit > Sonnax’s web site at www.sonnax.com.

yes, by all means, go ahead and do that without being able to check TCC slip when you are finished.

Response:

Ah, so *that’s* why I couldn’t find it.

Grease, Vacuum modulators died with the invention of electronic transmissions. Dean

Response:

Axle wrap? Are there blocks on the rear axle? If so…solution could be traction bars or replace stock springs and blocks for lift springs. HH

Response:

Parnate + orthostatic hypotension

admin — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

hey guys, i’m wondering, what is the worst part about orthostatic hypotension? for example, …… if i exercise, will i pass out, .. or will it raise my BP and be okay? any secrets to managing it? cheers

Response:

I forgot to reply to this question last night. From what I know about it, one of the ways they know you are at your limit for how much medicine to take is when your blood pressure gets too low (on a regular basis). I stopped at 100mg because when I would stand up after sitting or get up in the morning I would feel very dizzy. That is also why my doctor takes my blood pressure every visit, both sitting and standing. I would guess exercising is going to be subjective also. The best idea is to start slow, take your pulse and/or blood pressure if you can, and concentrate on how you feel as you’re exercising. Pay attention if you start feeling dizzy or light-headed. I really recommend a home blood pressure kit if you can afford one. As to blood pressure kits, I looked for a long time. I finally decided I wouldn’t be able to handle a manual kit in an emergency and bought an automatic one. I also researched and found that the wrist and finger machines aren’t as accurate or reliable, so I bought an arm one. Omron seems to be a good brand and Costco (if you have one) sells them the cheapest at $45.00 in the stores. One other thing to keep in mind, is that the standard arm cuff that comes with machines is 13"-17", since I’m a bit heavy I had to buy a larger one at $25.00 (didn’t find it cheaper anywhere – seems to be a fixed price). It’s quite a bit of money to lay out, but a good idea. Good luck, Jessica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hey guys, i’m wondering, what is the worst part about orthostatic > hypotension? > for example, …… if i exercise, will i pass out, .. or will it raise > my BP and be okay? > any secrets to managing it? > cheers

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Orthostatic hypotension will eventually go away. Just remember to rise slowly till it does. I almost passed out at my doctor’s office once when I got up to quickly. Guess I couldn’t have been at a better place. My depression had been treatment resistant for some time. My PDOC eventually added an amphetamine to the Parnate to treat the TRD, but it also helped with the orthostatic hypotension. This is usally considered very dangerous since combing these drugs can create a hypertensive crisis. I had no problem however. Most doctors won’t do this but please don’t do it on your on. Do it under a PDOC’s supervision and make sure he gives you that antidote blood pressure pill. Can’t remember the name of it right now but others on this site will know what I’m talking about. Curious, anybody else on the site every taken a combination of MAOI and an ampheamine.? hey guys, i’m wondering, what is the worst part about orthostatic hypotension? for example, …… if i exercise, will i pass out, .. or will it raise my BP and be okay? any secrets to managing it? cheers

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I know others have because it’s been mentioned on Psycho-Babble (a great site, btw). The emergency pill I was given is Chlorpromazine (Thorazine). I’ve used it once and it worked great. The only side effect was being pretty sleepy and out of it (tired) for a good day afterward. But that’s much better than a heart attack or stroke. I would really like to try amphetamine with the MAOI. I feel much better than I have in years on the Parnate but I still don’t feel like I’m there yet. We’re trying different augmentations but I’m a little frustrated with my doctor right now because she doesn’t want to try anything not "sanctioned". I’ve heard of success with several meds that aren’t technically supposed to be prescribed with MAOIs. I guess I just need to show her an article or two. She’s usually pretty easy going. -Jessica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Orthostatic hypotension will eventually go away. Just remember to rise > slowly till it does. I almost passed out at my doctor’s office once > when I got up to quickly. Guess I couldn’t have been at a better > place. > My depression had been treatment resistant for some time. My PDOC > eventually added an amphetamine to the Parnate to treat the TRD, but > it also helped with the orthostatic hypotension. This is usally > considered very dangerous since combing these drugs can create a > hypertensive crisis. I had no problem however. Most doctors won’t do > this but please don’t do it on your on. Do it under a PDOC’s > supervision and make sure he gives you that antidote blood pressure > pill. Can’t remember the name of it right now but others on this site > will know what I’m talking about. > Curious, anybody else on the site every taken a combination of MAOI > and an ampheamine.? > hey guys, i’m wondering, what is the worst part about orthostatic > hypotension? > for example, …… if i exercise, will i pass out, .. or will it > raise > my BP and be okay? > any secrets to managing it? > cheers

Response:

Bipolar II treatment with Lamictal

admin — Tue, 04 Jun 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

My doc has me starting at 25mg. I have decent insurance which covers my meds. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> taper up really slow.. not just to avoid rash but also to avoid mania. I hope > you have good prescription coverage.. Lamictal

Manowar Cums Into Canada!

admin — Thu, 23 May 2002 00:00:00 +0000

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Re: Manowar Cums Into Canada! > Were they standing on the border somewhere? > Yes, neither country wanted to let them in due to lack of talent or purpose. > http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ > Houston, Tejas, Estados Unidos

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>>> Re: Manowar Cums Into Canada! > Were they standing on the border somewhere?

> Yes, neither country wanted to let them in due to lack of > talent or purpose

Well, they probably got a lot of public exposure if they were somewhere around Niagra Falls, NY area. http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ Houston, Tejas, Estados Unidos

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yuk!! georgio — Remove the *NOSPAM* part in my email if you reply..

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> Re: Manowar Cums Into Canada!

Were they standing on the border somewhere? http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ Houston, Tejas, Estados Unidos

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I wonder what Canada thinks of their ejaculations…. — /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H / | http://www.toddh.net/ X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."

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Not only that, but Manowar is in no position to lecture anyone; they were most likely playing for the door anyway. It’s always tough when you’re a legend in your own mind. — John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ick, and some piss-poor writing as well. > On Tuesday May 21 2003, for the first time in their 20 year existence, > Manowar played a gig in the city of Toronto at a venue called The Opera > House. What was like for us Canadians to finally get to see Manowar. > Well have you ever seen that episode of Seinfeld about "The Soup Nazi"? > Well can you imagine if the "Soup Nazi" were a heavy metal band. > The band comes on stage with an incredibly loud sound system. The > guitarist used three 9 X 12 cabs, the bassist four 4 X 15 cabs, plus > their > own mega PA system. It was deafening. Well once the band starts > playing, > the audience gets a mosh thing going and one of the audience members > gets > lifted into the air and pushed towards the stage. Manowar stops playing > in the middle of their second song "Blood of my Enemies" and bassist > Joey > DeMaio takes the mic and starts lecturing the audience. To the best of > my > recollection, his words were "Keep your asses on the floor where they > belong, > not in the fucking air. Don’t make me come down there(into the > audience), > because If I have to come down there, you’re going to get put in the > hospital". > With that warning, the band resumed playing mid song where they left > off. > They play a couple of more songs and the mosh starts going again and the > same > guy gets lifted into the air and passed towards the stage. Once again > Manowar > stops playing and the bassist once more takes the mic. "This is the > second > time I’ve had to warn you. It’s taken 20 years to bring Manowar to > Canada, > if this happens a third time, its all over." The band resumed playing > and > after a few more songs, the audience started moshing again. The same > guy > go lifted into the air, but this time the singer pointed him out to the > security, who went and grabbed him and escorted him out of the building. > The band resumed playing and finished most of their set. Then towards > the > end of the set they stopped again, so bassist Joey DeMaio could give a > speech > (yes a speech) to the audience. In it, he explained that all those > rumours > that Manowar didn’t like Toronto or didn’t like Canada weren’t true. > The > reason it has taken Manowar 20 years to come into Canada was because all > the > promoters and people that run the radio stations have VERY TINY BALLS! > Aside from the attitude problems, Manowar did play an immaculate, > though > somewhat overly loud, set. Too bad it was not 1983 anymore, when their > sound > could still be considered cutting edge. Truly Manowar are the"RAGING > BULL" > of metal. > The opening act, Immortal, was the epitome of class when they > performed > and their guitarist sounded just as heavy using a single Marshall cab as > Manowar > did using their entire huge sound system. Plus the guitarist in Manowar > breathed > fire, whilst Manowar only breathered hot air.

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Ick, and some piss-poor writing as well.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Tuesday May 21 2003, for the first time in their 20 year existence, > Manowar played a gig in the city of Toronto at a venue called The Opera > House. What was like for us Canadians to finally get to see Manowar. > Well have you ever seen that episode of Seinfeld about "The Soup Nazi"? > Well can you imagine if the "Soup Nazi" were a heavy metal band. > The band comes on stage with an incredibly loud sound system. The > guitarist used three 9 X 12 cabs, the bassist four 4 X 15 cabs, plus > their > own mega PA system. It was deafening. Well once the band starts > playing, > the audience gets a mosh thing going and one of the audience members > gets > lifted into the air and pushed towards the stage. Manowar stops playing > in the middle of their second song "Blood of my Enemies" and bassist > Joey > DeMaio takes the mic and starts lecturing the audience. To the best of > my > recollection, his words were "Keep your asses on the floor where they > belong, > not in the fucking air. Don’t make me come down there(into the > audience), > because If I have to come down there, you’re going to get put in the > hospital". > With that warning, the band resumed playing mid song where they left > off. > They play a couple of more songs and the mosh starts going again and the > same > guy gets lifted into the air and passed towards the stage. Once again > Manowar > stops playing and the bassist once more takes the mic. "This is the > second > time I’ve had to warn you. It’s taken 20 years to bring Manowar to > Canada, > if this happens a third time, its all over." The band resumed playing > and > after a few more songs, the audience started moshing again. The same > guy > go lifted into the air, but this time the singer pointed him out to the > security, who went and grabbed him and escorted him out of the building. > The band resumed playing and finished most of their set. Then towards > the > end of the set they stopped again, so bassist Joey DeMaio could give a > speech > (yes a speech) to the audience. In it, he explained that all those > rumours > that Manowar didn’t like Toronto or didn’t like Canada weren’t true. > The > reason it has taken Manowar 20 years to come into Canada was because all > the > promoters and people that run the radio stations have VERY TINY BALLS! > Aside from the attitude problems, Manowar did play an immaculate, > though > somewhat overly loud, set. Too bad it was not 1983 anymore, when their > sound > could still be considered cutting edge. Truly Manowar are the"RAGING > BULL" > of metal. > The opening act, Immortal, was the epitome of class when they > performed > and their guitarist sounded just as heavy using a single Marshall cab as > Manowar > did using their entire huge sound system. Plus the guitarist in Manowar > breathed > fire, whilst Manowar only breathered hot air.

Response:

On Tuesday May 21 2003, for the first time in their 20 year existence, Manowar played a gig in the city of Toronto at a venue called The Opera House. What was like for us Canadians to finally get to see Manowar. Well have you ever seen that episode of Seinfeld about "The Soup Nazi"? Well can you imagine if the "Soup Nazi" were a heavy metal band. The band comes on stage with an incredibly loud sound system. The guitarist used three 9 X 12 cabs, the bassist four 4 X 15 cabs, plus their own mega PA system. It was deafening. Well once the band starts playing, the audience gets a mosh thing going and one of the audience members gets lifted into the air and pushed towards the stage. Manowar stops playing in the middle of their second song "Blood of my Enemies" and bassist Joey DeMaio takes the mic and starts lecturing the audience. To the best of my recollection, his words were "Keep your asses on the floor where they belong, not in the fucking air. Don’t make me come down there(into the audience), because If I have to come down there, you’re going to get put in the hospital". With that warning, the band resumed playing mid song where they left off. They play a couple of more songs and the mosh starts going again and the same guy gets lifted into the air and passed towards the stage. Once again Manowar stops playing and the bassist once more takes the mic. "This is the second time I’ve had to warn you. It’s taken 20 years to bring Manowar to Canada, if this happens a third time, its all over." The band resumed playing and after a few more songs, the audience started moshing again. The same guy go lifted into the air, but this time the singer pointed him out to the security, who went and grabbed him and escorted him out of the building. The band resumed playing and finished most of their set. Then towards the end of the set they stopped again, so bassist Joey DeMaio could give a speech (yes a speech) to the audience. In it, he explained that all those rumours that Manowar didn’t like Toronto or didn’t like Canada weren’t true. The reason it has taken Manowar 20 years to come into Canada was because all the promoters and people that run the radio stations have VERY TINY BALLS! Aside from the attitude problems, Manowar did play an immaculate, though somewhat overly loud, set. Too bad it was not 1983 anymore, when their sound could still be considered cutting edge. Truly Manowar are the"RAGING BULL" of metal. The opening act, Immortal, was the epitome of class when they performed and their guitarist sounded just as heavy using a single Marshall cab as Manowar did using their entire huge sound system. Plus the guitarist in Manowar breathed fire, whilst Manowar only breathered hot air.

Response:

EMERGENCY!!! I need to switch from Wellbutrin to Parnate quickly…

admin — Sun, 05 May 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Hi, I have been taking Wellbutrin for several months and it’s no longer adequate to relieve depression. I have been taking a 400 mg total daily dose. I have taken Parnate in the past and, despite the potential dangers and the hesitant doctors, it’s still the best of them all, esp. if you have a lot of trouble with anergia. My doctor authorized me to take Parnate once again but she wants me to wait 10 days and I don’t think I am going to be able to do it, friends. When I get off meds, I turn into a RUTABAGA. I can feel this happening already, even though I d/c’d the Wellbutrin only 3 days ago. Do I REALLY need to wait 10 days or is this just a real conservative measure? Does anyone know definitively how shortly I can take the Parnate after ending Wellbutrin without horrendous complications? If someone knows DEFINITIVELY, please let me know. I don’t want to end up in triage. Thanks friends.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I have been taking Wellbutrin for several months and it’s no > longer adequate to relieve depression. I have been taking a 400 mg > total daily dose. > I have taken Parnate in the past and, despite the potential dangers > and the hesitant doctors, it’s still the best of them all, esp. if you > have a lot of trouble with anergia. > My doctor authorized me to take Parnate once again but she wants me to > wait 10 days and I don’t think I am going to be able to do it, > friends. > When I get off meds, I turn into a RUTABAGA. I can feel this > happening already, even though I d/c’d the Wellbutrin only 3 days ago. > Do I REALLY need to wait 10 days or is this just a real conservative > measure? Does anyone know definitively how shortly I can take the > Parnate after ending Wellbutrin without horrendous complications? > If someone knows DEFINITIVELY, please let me know. I don’t want to > end up in triage. > Thanks friends.

Why don’t you try something less dangerous? B

Response:

Five Weeks to Psychosis on Prozac

admin — Wed, 01 May 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

I had the same experience with nardil. I was never psychotic or "schizoaffective" before. The problem was the too high of dose. BUT, now I am taking PROZAC for depression and it is helping me. I am working part time for the first time since I became ill. I am also taking zyprexa, which is helping me sleep, (sometimes WITH my fiance), and not so much worrying, racing or wierd thoughts. So, I don’t think Prozac is bad for everyone. This is the second time it has helped me with depression, i.e."thinking of everything negatively". That’s my testimony.

Response:

> relax dood.. just flipping you shit..

How funny B

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> You got it. > Every support ng has a clique of parasites whose participation > consists solely of harassing those engaging in on topic discussions, > Their posts are either petty remarks critquing the form of a post and > or personal attack on the poster, never ever posts ON TOPIC of a > substantive nature. > Called trolls. > KILLFILE and ignore them. .

Thanks for your words. I dont understand why these people waste time just bothering other people and partecipate in a group that they obviously have no interest in . I mean, do they have a life? It looks like they don’t. B

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> > I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups > was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. > Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? > Berty > again, I am writing in THIS ng. so, what about cross whatever? > please, let me know > B

You are sending your posts to : alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.support.anxiety-panic, alt.support.attn-deficit, alt.support.schizoaffective, alt.support.depression.manic, alt.support.depression.medication, alt.support.social-phobia, alt.support.depression.teens That is called cross posting. When someone responds to your post, then the answer is also readable in those other newsgroups. Berty

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups > > was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. > > Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? > > Berty > again, I am writing in THIS ng. so, what about cross whatever? > please, let me know > B > You are sending your posts to : > alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.support.anxiety-panic, > alt.support.attn-deficit, alt.support.schizoaffective, > alt.support.depression.manic, alt.support.depression.medication, > alt.support.social-phobia, alt.support.depression.teens > That is called cross posting. > When someone responds to your post, then the answer is also > readable in those other newsgroups. > Berty

It is NOT TRUE!!! I am sending my post only to the group related to the issue. Stop to break my balls, and do something with your life. B

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are sending your posts to : > alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.support.anxiety-panic, > alt.support.attn-deficit, alt.support.schizoaffective, > alt.support.depression.manic, alt.support.depression.medication, > alt.support.social-phobia, alt.support.depression.teens > That is called cross posting. > When someone responds to your post, then the answer is also > readable in those other newsgroups. > Berty >It is NOT TRUE!!! >I am sending my post only to the group related to the issue. >Stop to break my balls, and do something with your life. >B

No you are sending it to all the groups claimed. Here is the header for your post. Please learn how to trim headers, if for no other reason than many servers will delete everything crossposted to more than a few groups. By crossposting to so many groups you are are restricting your audience. Newsgroups: alt.support.schizophrenia,alt.support.anxiety-panic,alt.support.attn-defici t,alt.support.schizoaffective,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depr ession.medication,alt.support.social-phobia,alt.support.depression.teens,al t.support.foster-parents Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.104.236.84 X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1020649995 213.104.236.84 (Mon, Organization: ntlworld News Service Xref: alt.support.schizophrenia:45136 alt.support.anxiety-panic:276566 alt.support.attn-deficit:273439 alt.support.schizoaffective:3077 alt.support.depression.manic:210751 alt.support.depression.medication:101171 alt.support.social-phobia:70278 alt.support.depression.teens:14614 alt.support.foster-parents:850

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> No you are sending it to all the groups claimed. Here is the header > for your post. Please learn how to trim headers, if for no other > reason than many servers will delete everything crossposted to more > than a few groups. By crossposting to so many groups you are are > restricting your audience.

I repeat the same apology to the other group: I didn’t notice that in the address there was more than a group. I just sent the answer, without checking. I will be more careful in future. B > Newsgroups:

alt.support.schizophrenia,alt.support.anxiety-panic,alt.support.attn-defici t ,alt.support.schizoaffective,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depre s sion.medication,alt.support.social-phobia,alt.support.depression.teens,alt. s upport.foster-parents – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Lines: 33 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.104.236.84 > X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1020649995 213.104.236.84 (Mon, > Organization: ntlworld News Service > Xref: alt.support.schizophrenia:45136 > alt.support.anxiety-panic:276566 alt.support.attn-deficit:273439 > alt.support.schizoaffective:3077 alt.support.depression.manic:210751 > alt.support.depression.medication:101171 > alt.support.social-phobia:70278 alt.support.depression.teens:14614 > alt.support.foster-parents:850

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> You are a cross posting cross dresser. You’re also ugly and your mother dresses > you funny.

I think that you have a huge problem… Are you just envious because I can talk about my problems and other people’s, and what you can do is just bother other people with your petty remarks without saying anything that counts? Grow up B

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> I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups > was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. > Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? > Berty

again, I am writing in THIS ng. so, what about cross whatever? please, let me know B

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Five Weeks to Psychosis on Prozac > Antidepressants > "It was close to 2 years before I could laugh again." > My name is Amy. I started taking 20 mg. of Prozac in April, 1992. My > doctor thought I was > depressed due to empty nest syndrome and menopause. > I had always been a very open and trusting person, so I swallowed my first > capsule without > reading the insert in the bottle. I trusted my doctor. The first week I > noticed I was > sleeping less. I had been sleeping between 7 and 8 hours a night and now I > was sleeping > about 6 hours a night. But this did not concern me. I suddenly had a lot > to ponder. I > began ruminating on how people had done me wrong. . I first focused on my > 3 cousins (whom > I had not seen in years). I thought they were betraying me behind my back. > To add to this > worry, I began obsessing about incidents in history such as the > destruction of Cambodia > and Tibet by the Communists and the tragedy of the Holocaust. I sat at my > kitchen table > and cried for hours about this. At my part time job, I felt that the other > employees were > taking advantage of me. I had never felt this way before and it seemed > like a revelation > to me. > By the 4th week on Prozac, I was sleeping only 4 hours a night but it did > not concern me > because I had so many important things to think about. I would pick up a > book to read and > would think that there was some special message in there for me. I was > sure of this when > the printed matter on the page began jumping out at me. Nothing like this > had ever > happened to me before. I began to make a special effort to act normal > around people > because suddenly these people would appear to me as being unreal. I became > terrified that > they were unreal but I must not let them know this. During the next > several weeks I became > confused in my driving and would lose my sense of direction. I thought > that I could not > concentrate on my driving because I was so terrified of what else was > happening. I never > once suspected that it was the Prozac. > My husband of 28 years became concerned about me but I kept saying I’ll be > better as soon > as this Prozac takes effect. I told him none of my symptoms. I felt that > everything wrong > in the world was my problem and I must solve it. At no time in my life had > I ever thought > of suicide. It wasn’t as though I had ever thought of suicide and then > dismissed the idea. > It was just that the thought of suicide had never occurred to me. By my > 9th week on Prozac > I felt suicidal. I went to my doctor and told him that I was going to kill > myself because > I could not endure this suffering. He immediately told me to discontinue > the Prozac and he > gave me some sleeping medication. I thought this meant that the Prozac had > not worked for > me and that I was having a nervous breakdown. The next day I began having > visual > hallucinations. I was so terrified that I went to my doctor in an > incoherent state. He put > me in the hospital and I was there for 3 weeks as an inpatient. My husband > visited me > every night after work. We both thought that I had a nervous breakdown. No > doctor told us > differently. I was given Thorazine and I began to sleep again. Then my > health insurance > ran out and I came back home. When I left the hospital, I was told to see > a psychologist > once a week. The psychologist and I discussed my childhood. One day, three > months later, > my husband said Do you think the Prozac could have contributed to your > breakdown .No , I > said, Prozac is a drug that helps mental disturbances. It would not cause > mental > disturbance. > My husband found the insert to my bottle of Prozac. We began to read it. > We saw that > hallucinations, depersonalization, paranoia and confusion were all listed > as adverse > reactions. I still could not believe it so I sent for my hospital record. > I was amazed to > see that on the fourth day of my hospitalization the physician had written > Patient had > psychotic reaction to Prozac. These symptoms started after use. We > investigated this > matter but were never given a satisfactory answer for why the doctors kept > this a secret. > The saddest part of this story is that it took so long for me to > completely recover. It > was close to 2 years before I could laugh again. It was almost 4 years > before the idea of > forgiveness even began to stir in my soul. Now, in my 6th year, I am > completely recovered > and enjoying life again, but I will never forget this trip through hell. > My husband, children and I are now dedicated to warning others about the > dangers of > Prozac. > — > Psychiatry is to Science > as Astrology is to Astronomy > for many people prozac is a very goog opportunity to have a normal life, so > please do not take the piss > B

I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? Berty

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> Five Weeks to Psychosis on Prozac > Antidepressants > "It was close to 2 years before I could laugh again." > My name is Amy. I started taking 20 mg. of Prozac in April, 1992. My

doctor thought I was > depressed due to empty nest syndrome and menopause. > I had always been a very open and trusting person, so I swallowed my first capsule without > reading the insert in the bottle. I trusted my doctor. The first week I noticed I was > sleeping less. I had been sleeping between 7 and 8 hours a night and now I was sleeping > about 6 hours a night. But this did not concern me. I suddenly had a lot to ponder. I > began ruminating on how people had done me wrong. . I first focused on my 3 cousins (whom > I had not seen in years). I thought they were betraying me behind my back. To add to this > worry, I began obsessing about incidents in history such as the

destruction of Cambodia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> and Tibet by the Communists and the tragedy of the Holocaust. I sat at my kitchen table > and cried for hours about this. At my part time job, I felt that the other employees were > taking advantage of me. I had never felt this way before and it seemed like a revelation > to me. > By the 4th week on Prozac, I was sleeping only 4 hours a night but it did not concern me > because I had so many important things to think about. I would pick up a book to read and > would think that there was some special message in there for me. I was sure of this when > the printed matter on the page began jumping out at me. Nothing like this had ever > happened to me before. I began to make a special effort to act normal around people > because suddenly these people would appear to me as being unreal. I became terrified that > they were unreal but I must not let them know this. During the next

several weeks I became – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> confused in my driving and would lose my sense of direction. I thought that I could not > concentrate on my driving because I was so terrified of what else was happening. I never > once suspected that it was the Prozac. > My husband of 28 years became concerned about me but I kept saying I’ll be better as soon > as this Prozac takes effect. I told him none of my symptoms. I felt that everything wrong > in the world was my problem and I must solve it. At no time in my life had I ever thought > of suicide. It wasn’t as though I had ever thought of suicide and then dismissed the idea. > It was just that the thought of suicide had never occurred to me. By my 9th week on Prozac > I felt suicidal. I went to my doctor and told him that I was going to kill myself because > I could not endure this suffering. He immediately told me to discontinue the Prozac and he > gave me some sleeping medication. I thought this meant that the Prozac had not worked for > me and that I was having a nervous breakdown. The next day I began having visual > hallucinations. I was so terrified that I went to my doctor in an

incoherent state. He put – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> me in the hospital and I was there for 3 weeks as an inpatient. My husband visited me > every night after work. We both thought that I had a nervous breakdown. No doctor told us > differently. I was given Thorazine and I began to sleep again. Then my health insurance > ran out and I came back home. When I left the hospital, I was told to see a psychologist > once a week. The psychologist and I discussed my childhood. One day, three months later, > my husband said Do you think the Prozac could have contributed to your breakdown .No , I > said, Prozac is a drug that helps mental disturbances. It would not cause mental > disturbance. > My husband found the insert to my bottle of Prozac. We began to read it. We saw that > hallucinations, depersonalization, paranoia and confusion were all listed as adverse > reactions. I still could not believe it so I sent for my hospital record. I was amazed to > see that on the fourth day of my hospitalization the physician had written Patient had > psychotic reaction to Prozac. These symptoms started after use. We investigated this > matter but were never given a satisfactory answer for why the doctors kept this a secret. > The saddest part of this story is that it took so long for me to

completely recover. It > was close to 2 years before I could laugh again. It was almost 4 years before the idea of > forgiveness even began to stir in my soul. Now, in my 6th year, I am

completely recovered > and enjoying life again, but I will never forget this trip through hell. > My husband, children and I are now dedicated to warning others about the dangers of > Prozac. > — > Psychiatry is to Science > as Astrology is to Astronomy

for many people prozac is a very goog opportunity to have a normal life, so please do not take the piss B

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> I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups > was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. > Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? > Berty

again, I am writing in THIS ng. so, what about cross whatever? please, let me know B

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> You are a cross posting cross dresser. You’re also ugly and your mother dresses > you funny.

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> relax dood.. just flipping you shit..

How funny B

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It is NOT TRUE!!! I am sending my post only to the group related to the issue. Stop to break my balls, and do something with your life. B

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> You are a cross posting cross dresser. You’re also ugly and your mother dresses > you funny.

I am sorry, it is my fault, I didn’t notice that in the reply address there was more than one group. I just answered to the post but I didn’t check the addresses. In other ngs I never had a problem like that, I don’t understand why people put more than one address. Anyway, sorry for the mess. B – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "barbapic" >> I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups >> was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. >> Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? >> Berty >again, I am writing in THIS ng. so, what about cross whatever? >please, let me know >B > — > Psychiatry is to Science > as Astrology is to Astronomy

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> Five Weeks to Psychosis on Prozac > Antidepressants > "It was close to 2 years before I could laugh again." > My name is Amy. I started taking 20 mg. of Prozac in April, 1992. My

completely recover. It > was close to 2 years before I could laugh again. It was almost 4 years before the idea of > forgiveness even began to stir in my soul. Now, in my 6th year, I am

for many people prozac is a very goog opportunity to have a normal life, so please do not take the piss B

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I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? Berty

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Should I take a MAOI?

admin — Mon, 29 Apr 2002 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

I have tried paxil, then effexor my doc thinks i should try parnate are there safer meds i should be trying first? thanks in advance cybercafe

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I saw your posts in the Manerix thread, so I guess you’re already aware of my experience with this product. The question is if it is available where you are. What about Parnate? Is it reversible? Does it affect the same neurotransmitters? If it’s easier for you to find, why not try it? If SSRIs didn’t work for you and your depression is rather atypical, MAOIs can be a good choice.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have tried paxil, then effexor > my doc thinks i should try parnate > are there safer meds i should be trying first? > thanks in advance > cybercafe

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my doc said the worst thing i have to fear from a MAOI in all likelihood is a headache…. how accurate does that sound? how bad is a hypotensive crisis likely to be ? i hear moclobemide isn’t as affective and nardil causes light-headedness because all the blood goes to your feet oh i’m bipolar type II (mainly depression, some hypomania) btw

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I saw your posts in the Manerix thread, so I guess you’re already aware of > my experience with this product. The question is if it is available where > you are. > What about Parnate? Is it reversible? Does it affect the same > neurotransmitters? If it’s easier for you to find, why not try it? > If SSRIs didn’t work for you and your depression is rather atypical, MAOIs > can be a good choice.

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> my doc said the worst thing i have to fear from a MAOI in all likelihood is > a headache…. how accurate does that sound?

That, and some insomnia, but the great thing is as soon as your morning pill takes effect, you don’t feel like you hadn’t much sleep. It’s like I needed less sleep now. But maybe I just could stop drinking coffee. > how bad is a hypotensive crisis likely to be ?

As far as I know, MAOIs rather tend to induce hypertension, not hypotension. > i hear moclobemide isn’t as affective and nardil causes light-headedness > because all the blood goes to your feet

If Parnate is more effective than Manerix, it must very effective. Besides, I did a little search, and side effects also seem to be heavier.

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Oh, and while we’re at it, if that matters to you, Manerix as a very positive effect on my libido… Wish I had a girlfriend right now, she would find me rather… let’s say, intense?

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Tranylcypromine (Parnate) is very effective, typically more so than moclobemide (Manerix). They are technically different classes of drug. The former is ‘irreversible’ and nonselective, inhibiting MAOI type A and B, whereas the latter is a RIMA (Reversible Inhibitor of Monoamine oxidase type-A). Have a look at this page: http://www.biopsychiatry.com/tranylmoc.htm Tranylcypromine has a tendency to induce hypertensive crises more often than the other nonselective, irreversible MAOI-type drugs (isocarboxazid, phenelzine). More of a common concern than the hypertensive crises that could afflict you if you consume too much tyramine, is the tendency for the MAOIs to induce hypotension. This is common amongst these drugs, and not solely limited to phenelzine (Nardil). However, the orthostatic hypotensive effects of the MAOIs appear in the majority of patients to resolve and are surprisingly replaced by significant but asymptomatic and transient increases in blood pressure later on. As for how bad the hypertensive crises are likely to be, it all depends on how much tyramine you consume. It takes only a small quantity of cheese but a large quantity of wine or beer to precipitate a hypertensive crisis. The rule is simply to avoid these foods altogether. You should not experience much in the way of symptoms if you stick to the diet. Moclobemide might well be worth trying. If it works, you don’t have the dietary restrictions, even though you are advised to be wary of consuming too much pressor amine-containing food. I’m interested to know why you are thinking about MAOI-related drugs after having tried so few others. You may be taking on a life of very boring meals if you decide this early in the game to take Parnate. If you are an anxious insomniac type of person, there may well be more tolerable drugs than the rather activating Parnate. They would certainly be easier to take in the long term, although I admit that there are few drugs that are as effective for severe depression than Parnate. Hope this helps, Vitriholic

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my doc said the worst thing i have to fear from a MAOI in all likelihood is > a headache…. how accurate does that sound? > how bad is a hypotensive crisis likely to be ? > i hear moclobemide isn’t as affective and nardil causes light-headedness > because all the blood goes to your feet > oh i’m bipolar type II (mainly depression, some hypomania) btw > I saw your posts in the Manerix thread, so I guess you’re already aware of > my experience with this product. The question is if it is available where > you are. > What about Parnate? Is it reversible? Does it affect the same > neurotransmitters? If it’s easier for you to find, why not try it? > If SSRIs didn’t work for you and your depression is rather atypical, MAOIs > can be a good choice.

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I’ve been on Parnate for several months now. After trying more anti-depressants than I can count in the other groups my doctor suggested I try an MAOI. This is not an idle decision – the diet is very important! In general, MAOI’s lower your blood pressure. In fact I get my blood pressure checked frequently and my doctor is always asking if I feel dizzy upon rising to make sure it doesn’t go too low. It’s a good way to make sure you’re not taking too much too. However, when you ingest foods containing tyramine your blood pressure will rise. If you ingest too much you will have a "hypertensive episode". Any doctor that prescribes an MAOI should also prescribe an emergency pill to counter the effects of rapidly rising blood pressure. If left unchecked you can go into cardiac arrest and possibly die. So the repercussions are very serious. My doctor gave me thorazine as a counter drug. I only take it if I have an episode. This has happened to me twice. The symptoms (for most people) are migraine first. This is the only time in my life I have had a serious migraine. Both times the pain was so intense I felt like crying. It comes on extremely fast and is severe. Taking the thorazine greatly helped. Within an hour it felt like a normal headache again. I was tired for about 24-48 hours and headachy for a couple weeks on and off after each attack. Both times were caused by accidentally eating something in a restaurant. (The first time was clams in stew and I later called the restaurant and found out they were smoked, canned clams. The second time I ate some Pho soup and it had anchovy paste in it – I had no idea.) The side-effects in general aren’t too bad. It makes it difficult to sleep, but I take trazadone or klonopin for that. And it’s also important for me to take my first dose at around the same time every day or I feel dizzy and just kind of out of it and by the time I remember to take it if I’m late it takes an hour or two to feel normal again. I take a very high dose though. I am not bi-polar but have been diagnosed as having treatment resistant depression. For those with TRD they sometimes suggest taking a dose up to 130mg. A normal dose only goes up to 60mg. I take 100mg. So, the bottom line is – these are my experiences, others may have slightly different reactions. I have heard that headache can be a possible side-effect, but other that after my migraine I have not had that. The most important thing I can say is that it is crucial to learn what foods contain tyramine and stick to the diet religiously. It’s not quite as restrictive as it used to be. If you look into it make sure you are looking at lists after 1996. They redid the lists and made them less restrictive. For example, mozzarella cheese and other fresh cheeses (like chevre, montrachet, cream cheese, etc.) are okay – you really have to avoid aged cheeses. I can eat pizza still, I just have to make sure it made by someone who doesn’t add parmesan or mix the mozzarella with other cheeses. You’ll find you are often asking about the ingredients in items when you eat out. Well, kind of wordy – but I hope that helps! -Jessica

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> > my doc said the worst thing i have to fear from a MAOI in all likelihood > is > a headache…. how accurate does that sound? > That, and some insomnia, but the great thing is as soon as your morning pill > takes effect, you don’t feel like you hadn’t much sleep. It’s like I needed > less sleep now. But maybe I just could stop drinking coffee.

oh…. jessica says below that a hypertensive crisis is a possibility… ? > how bad is a hypotensive crisis likely to be ? > As far as I know, MAOIs rather tend to induce hypertension, not

hypotension. sorry, that’s what i meant, hypertensive crisis > i hear moclobemide isn’t as affective and nardil causes light-headedness > because all the blood goes to your feet > If Parnate is more effective than Manerix, it must very effective. Besides, > I did a little search, and side effects also seem to be heavier.

damn… maybe i should take Manerix first…. the reason why my doc wants me to try an MAOI is because he says effexor works on certain dense norepenephrine and 5HT areas, and if those areas aren’t what needs targetting, the next step is to move on to the midbrain with an MAOI

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> Oh, and while we’re at it, if that matters to you, Manerix as a very > positive effect on my libido… Wish I had a girlfriend right now, she would > find me rather… let’s say, intense?

of course it matters to me… … i’ve taken paxil before now that you’re feeling okay, it should be the easiest time for you to get a GF, no? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my doc said the worst thing i have to fear from a MAOI in all likelihood > is > a headache…. how accurate does that sound? > how bad is a hypotensive crisis likely to be ? > i hear moclobemide isn’t as affective and nardil causes light-headedness > because all the blood goes to your feet > oh i’m bipolar type II (mainly depression, some hypomania) btw

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> Tranylcypromine (Parnate) is very effective, typically more so than > moclobemide (Manerix). They are technically different classes of drug. The > former is ‘irreversible’ and nonselective, inhibiting MAOI type A and B, > whereas the latter is a RIMA (Reversible Inhibitor of Monoamine oxidase > type-A). Have a look at this page:

in what sense is it irreversible? > solely limited to phenelzine (Nardil). However, the orthostatic hypotensive > effects of the MAOIs appear in the majority of patients to resolve and are > surprisingly replaced by significant but asymptomatic and transient > increases in blood pressure later on.

how much later are we talking here? > rule is simply to avoid these foods altogether. You should not experience > much in the way of symptoms if you stick to the diet.

of course my fear is that i eat something out where it is not obvious there is cheese in the ingredients, and then keel over dead i just don’t know how realistic a scenario that is > Moclobemide might well be worth trying. If it works, you don’t have the > dietary restrictions, even though you are advised to be wary of consuming > too much pressor amine-containing food.

what’s a pressor amine? > having tried so few others. You may be taking on a life of very boring meals > if you decide this early in the game to take Parnate. If you are an

anxious my doc recommended it because it was his belief that if paxil and effexor don’t work, it’s time to try a different brain area (hence an MAOI) i may have misunderstood, but he also seemed to believe that the worst i can expect from a hypertensive crisis is a bad headache.. the other symptoms (death) are overstated > insomniac type of person, there may well be more tolerable drugs than the > rather activating Parnate. They would certainly be easier to take in the > long term, although I admit that there are few drugs that are as effective > for severe depression than Parnate.

no i sleep too much, but you’re right, i certainly do not want any diet restrictions

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> of course my fear is that i eat something out where it is not obvious there > is cheese in the ingredients, and then keel over dead > i just don’t know how realistic a scenario that is

I actually allow myself some cheese… Even parmesan on my pasta! I just blame myself if I get a headache after, but it’s not that bad. From what I read, interaction is much worse with Parnate. If you like fresh cheese like cottage or cream cheese, you can have as much as you want, since the tyramide is produced in the aging process.

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I have a bit of parmesan too – it doesn’t seem to effect me if I don’t have much. RE: the keel over dead fear – you won’t instantly die!!! You will have plenty of warning physically before you get to the point of heart attack. If you take your emergency pill and/or call 911 you’ll be just fine. -Jessica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> of course my fear is that i eat something out where it is not obvious > there > is cheese in the ingredients, and then keel over dead > i just don’t know how realistic a scenario that is > I actually allow myself some cheese… Even parmesan on my pasta! I just > blame myself if I get a headache after, but it’s not that bad. From what I > read, interaction is much worse with Parnate. If you like fresh cheese like > cottage or cream cheese, you can have as much as you want, since the > tyramide is produced in the aging process.

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> > of course my fear is that i eat something out where it is not obvious > there > is cheese in the ingredients, and then keel over dead > i just don’t know how realistic a scenario that is > I actually allow myself some cheese… Even parmesan on my pasta! I just > blame myself if I get a headache after, but it’s not that bad. From what I > read, interaction is much worse with Parnate. If you like fresh cheese like > cottage or cream cheese, you can have as much as you want, since the > tyramide is produced in the aging process.

hmm.. so you’re taking manerix/moclobemide right? … yeah i think i’ll push for that one.. though i think my doc said it only works for 2 out of 10 people whereas parnate works for like 10/10 people (i could be really confused-misquoting here, .. would appreciate input) so wait a sec here…. is that the worst that can happen on manerix, a headache? … is there a chance of you accidentally eating something worse? … like if you eat out all the time

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> RE: the keel over dead fear – you won’t instantly die!!! You will have > plenty of warning physically before you get to the point of heart attack. > If you take your emergency pill and/or call 911 you’ll be just fine.

thanks a lot for replying guys… i really appreciate the info i guess i am just afraid of coming off weird to friends….. like i wouldn’t want to have half of my dates cut short by me ending up in the emergency ward …. ummm…. after you take the thorazine you have to go to see a doc right? .. to see if your heart has returned to normal? why did my doc say something about cutting open the chest and sticking a needle (norepenephrine) in the heart? cheers cybercafe

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> hmm.. so you’re taking manerix/moclobemide right? … yeah i think i’ll > push for that one.. though i think my doc said it only works for 2 out of 10 > people whereas parnate works for like 10/10 people (i could be really > confused-misquoting here, .. would appreciate input)

If it only work for 20% of people, then I’m definitely in that 20%. The good side is you will know very fast if it works or not. If you don’t notice any change in the first week, then you’ll know it doesn’t work for you. You should feel better on the second day if it does. > so wait a sec here…. is that the worst that can happen on manerix, a > headache? … is there a chance of you accidentally eating something worse? > … like if you eat out all the time

It’s the worst I’ve experienced, though sometimes I feel my heart beating faster and I have some difficulty sleeping (could be coffee, I drank a lot of it this week). I also noticed some stiffening in my legs in the last few days, but it could be because I walked more than usual this week, I’ve got too get my shape back. Go for fresh cheese and avoid preserved meat and alcohol, especially red wine, beer, and brown liquor (whisky, brandy, rhum, etc…) I think I’ll cut the coffee, too. All in all, the positive outweighs greatly the negative points. (In my case.) Besides, you should do a serious search on the long term effects of non-reversible MAOIs like Parnate… High efficiency has a price.

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I’m on Parnate, haven’t tried Manerix. I don’t understand your doctor – maybe he just wanted to let you know the absolute worst case scenario. After you take the thorazine you don’t need to see anyone. If you’re feeling better, chances are your blood pressure is returning to normal. I would recommend getting a home blood pressure kit (I don’t have one yet, but plan on purchasing an automatic one). It’s good to have a baseline blood pressure measurement (I take mine every two weeks) and it’s also a helpful diagnostic when you’re having an attack and after you are feeling better. It’s a little awkward when I eat at restaurants, but it’s just like people with food allergies – they have to ask about ingredients and occasionally make special orders too. I just order simpler foods and ask for no cheese. The hardest part for me is giving up my Mexican food with melted cheddar. Mmmm. Also – I still eat ethnic, but you have to be a bit more careful, especially with Asian foods. Again – you just need to know what you’re eating. You really shouldn’t be afraid of Parnate though. Like I said, it’s like having a food allergy. Definitely non-life-threatening. Good luck, Jessica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> RE: the keel over dead fear – you won’t instantly die!!! You will have > plenty of warning physically before you get to the point of heart attack. > If you take your emergency pill and/or call 911 you’ll be just fine. > thanks a lot for replying guys… i really appreciate the info > i guess i am just afraid of coming off weird to friends….. > like i wouldn’t want to have half of my dates cut short by me ending up in > the emergency ward …. > ummm…. after you take the thorazine you have to go to see a doc right? .. > to see if your heart has returned to normal? > why did my doc say something about cutting open the chest and sticking a > needle (norepenephrine) in the heart? > cheers > cybercafe

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Hi, you seem well informed about diet issues with MAOIs. Do you happen to know if coffee contains tyramine, or if cafeine has any bad interactions with MAOIs? I’m beginning to wonder if my daily double espresso shot in the morning is fully compatible with my Manerix (I know you’re on Parnate, but it’s the same food restrictions…) I think I’ll stop drinking coffee to see if I can sleep better at night.

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I’ve done a lot of research about diet restrictions and the latest information. Caffeine is okay in moderation. 1-2 cups or so if okay. I have had double shots of espresso and been fine, but I try not to have any more than that. As for sleep – the caffeine in the coffee has the same effect whether you’re on the med or not. So if it made you have trouble sleeping before then it still will. I have to remind you that my knowledge is Parnate based – I really don’t know anything about Manerix. I know that Parnate causes trouble sleeping and I take Trazadone to help me sleep. I also tried Klonopin which is another "clean" sleeping aid. I doubt caffiene in the morning is going to effect your sleep at night – it’s probably the med. Ask your doctor about it. -Jessica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, you seem well informed about diet issues with MAOIs. Do you happen to > know if coffee contains tyramine, or if cafeine has any bad interactions > with MAOIs? I’m beginning to wonder if my daily double espresso shot in the > morning is fully compatible with my Manerix (I know you’re on Parnate, but > it’s the same food restrictions…) I think I’ll stop drinking coffee to see > if I can sleep better at night.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, you seem well informed about diet issues with MAOIs. Do you > happen to know if coffee contains tyramine, or if cafeine has any bad > interactions with MAOIs? I’m beginning to wonder if my daily double > espresso shot in the morning is fully compatible with my Manerix (I > know you’re on Parnate, but it’s the same food restrictions…) I > think I’ll stop drinking coffee to see if I can sleep better at night. > Quit talking about Manerix as if it’s a real MAOI, with the same food > restrictions. It’s a RIMA and it’s hardly comparable with irreversible > MAOI’s like Parnate or Nardil! I ate salami pizza’s while on moclobemide. > Wouldn’t take that risk with Parnate. Parnate worked -for a while- and > moclobemide did shit for me. Not even gave me side effects (which was very > pleasant, by the way, but still… I felt like taking a placebo).

Ooooh sorry… I’ll stop pretending to be in the same league as the big boys taking real MAOIs with real diet restrictions… I’ll go back to the kindergarden with the other Manerix kids. How did I dare to believe I was worthy of the same side effects, I’m so ashamed of myself… Maybe it’s time I switch to something stronger, like Life Savers or Werther’s Originals… Do you think I could handle these? Any side effects? > "Patients on tranylcypromine therapy should also be advised not to consume > excessive amounts of caffeine in any form (coffee, tea, cola drinks, etc.) > because of possible enhanced effects of caffeine on the CNS." > No special warning for caffeine and moclobemide…

Ok, so I can eat anything with my baby pills, great.

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> I’ve done a lot of research about diet restrictions and the latest > information. Caffeine is okay in moderation. 1-2 cups or so if okay. I > have had double shots of espresso and been fine, but I try not to have any > more than that. As for sleep – the caffeine in the coffee has the same > effect whether you’re on the med or not. So if it made you have trouble > sleeping before then it still will.

Maybe it’s just the combination of both… I’ll cut the coffey and see the results. > I have to remind you that my knowledge is Parnate based – I really don’t > know anything about Manerix. I know that Parnate causes trouble sleeping > and I take Trazadone to help me sleep. I also tried Klonopin which is > another "clean" sleeping aid. I doubt caffiene in the morning is going to > effect your sleep at night – it’s probably the med. Ask your doctor about > it.

Yeah, I see him today.

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> Ooooh sorry… I’ll stop pretending to be in the same league as the big boys > taking real MAOIs with real diet restrictions… I’ll go back to the > kindergarden with the other Manerix kids. How did I dare to believe I was > worthy of the same side effects, I’m so ashamed of myself… Maybe it’s time > I switch to something stronger, like Life Savers or Werther’s Originals… > Do you think I could handle these? Any side effects?

I wouldn’t worry about it, I’ve taken both types… phenelzine, a big, bad nasty ol’ MAOI, did bugger all for me except making me watch my diet/blood pressure, but moclobemide, which didn’t even give me a hard time with cheese & marmite sarnies washed down with yeasty lager actually worked for a while (albeit briefly) Chris.