why psych drug users are violent, stupid, evil (FWD: hostility on this group

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YOU DRUG ADDICTED AND CRAZY, DA? HOW LONG YOUR MIND THE SHIT?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t usually bother reading any of the garbage you write, but I felt a need > tonight to just say "Why don’t you buzz off, jerk-off."  You obviously have an > agenda that you’re trying to push, but it has no place in this newsgroup. This > newsgroup is for honest, everyday people with problems that are looking for > help, support, or want to furnish guidance to others.  That’s certainly not > you, so, as I say, "Cool it, asshole."  There are plenty of hate groups on the > net that probably would welcome your drivel.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Wow.   A society that made Cigarettes legal.  A society that sticks caffeine > in every known drink to man.   A society who consumes so much caffeine each > day.  Which is a stimulant of the brain, which does cause withdrawl.   Uh, > so that means it’s an addiction an upper.   The would make 3/4 of North > America losers.  The fact is we as a world are addicted one way or > another…  some, yes some of us are truly at one with the world and > themselves.   Very few. > But what is truly happyness?  Working 40+ hours a week, trying to make as > much money as you can?  Shopping at Gap?  Buying a nice house, living in a > nice neighbourhood?  Having a beer, watching the game?  Sex with the > wife/girlfriend?  Having children? Smoking weed, while listening to pink > floyd?  Or taking cocaine so you can work more hours at work, because you > hope to get that raise.  Besides most people who can afford cocaine are the > people who make this stuff illegal.   The same law makers that make weed > illegal are the same people sucking on a joint while their secretary is > sucking their dick. > Some how as we age, we loose the grasp at looking at the two sides. > Now using marijuana, cocaine, valium and such  is not the answer to > happyness.  It just masks the truth for short periods of time.  There you > are right.   But to give up on people who make mistakes, then we would > simply have to pass up everyone. > Boy now only if we could have a drug that makes people social… oh wait.. > alcohol.  dang..  I wanted to invent that one. > I dunno its just my opinion. > Take it easy. > benzo’s are happiness pills just like pot and cocaine. if happiness > could be created via chemicals, valium or pot would not have been so > thoroughly discredited. life is brutally hard, and weak people will > always grab for these pretend solutions. drug addicts are losers and > should allowed to overdose. they want to die. let them. psychiatrists > are evil.

if i catch you consuming pot, i’ll beat you with in an inch of your hippie life, freak-boy. Before you buy.

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Verbal assault is illegal in many states and countries.  Your abuse and harassment is not mere trolling or personal expression.  It is not protected by the first amendment.  You could be taken to court on civil or criminal charges if someone sees fit to do so. Your behaviour is acceptable nowhere. –George "He paid no attention to the rumors, which he should have listened to…" Keiko Sofia Before you buy.

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Hi Mark, good to meet you. It is always a good idea to snip abusive posts so as not to continue to put in print things that you wouldn’t want to say. The level of abuse towards women that we have seen is not mere trolling.  While you or I are not threatened by this psychopath, he is threatening towards women.  I think that he is a real threat to women in real life. I hope that people will recognize that simply ignoring abuse is not the answer when it is this extreme. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi there, > Some newsreaders do not make it apparent when you crosspost. This guy > you are replying to doesn’t care what he says or if his arguments have > validity or not. What he does want is to make people mad and have them > reply to him. > Hopper, > Thanks for explaining the troll game to the unknowing. Before my > computer crashed 2 weeks ago, I had over 50 names in my killfile. > also…. > I also lost your phone number in the crash. Somebody goofed > around with my caller ID when they were here too, and a *lot* of > phone numbers got deleted. > and… > I anticipate that we both are about to receive a nice helping of > snow! Wouldn’t it be fun to spark a hogleg on top of a snowy > hill, sip down 2 cups of hot chocolate, then slide down on a > cheap plastic sled?   Bonus points awarded for wreckless > endangerment, LOL! > Mark

This ain’t just the troll game. We are dealing with a very sick individual. — –George "He paid no attention to the rumors, which he should have listened to…" Keiko Sofia Before you buy.

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WHERE YOU FROM? I KNOW TARAS LITVINCHUK IN KYIV, YOU KNOW HIM? > Ricky: >     I don’t think that SSRIHater will answer your question because this is > one obviously messed up individual.  S/he needs help

HE THE HE… HAVE THE "HUJ" BETWEEN THE LEGS. WHY YOU PROZAKIANS IMPOTENT LIKE ELIZABETH SHAPERE’S BOY FRIEND, PAUL ANTHONY GOWDER, JR., ESQ. ? >dealing with the > overwhelming compulsion to search for negative information about SSRIs

EASY "SEARCH"… ONLY KIND OF INFO ABOUT SSRIs anyway.. THERE IS GOOD INFO. ABOUT SSRIs? THAT NOT DRUG COMPANY FUNDED!?!? I NOT SEE ANY… > and > trolling alt.support newsgroups.  What kind of thrill can a person get out > of making inflammatory posts towards people > (1) with mental disorders

THEY CRAZY, GOOD FOR THE SHIT AND THEY HURT NORMAL, HUMAN PEOPLE… WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH CRAZY PROZAKIANS AND THE OTHER DRUG ADDICTS IN UKRAINE….. >  and > (2) that s/he doesn’t even know personally?

THEY MOSTLY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME… THE PROZAKIANS … DRUG INDUCED BEHAVIOR… IT’S WHY THEY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME… LIKE ALCOHOLICS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME… >  A very special kind of person > … someone who is immature, who has never learned the social rules of > politeness,

I AM MUCH MORE KULTURED THEN YOU…. A PROZAKIAN DRUG ADDICT SCUMBAG… I HAVE OBSERVED THE ACTING OUT BY YOU PROZAKIANS… CENSORSHIP, ISP PLUG PULLING RALLIES, ETC.. YOU ALL THE SHIT. I WISH YOU WERE IN UKRAINE RIGHT NOW…. > and who has never developed compassion toward his/her fellow > human beings.

YOU PROZAKIAN RAMPAGING, CHILD ABUSING, PET KILLING SHIT HAVE COMPASSION FOR US HUMANS? " P’TFU !" IN YOUR BORG ADDICT FACE! I SEE HOW YOUR KIND PUSH DRUGZ ON THE PREGNANT WOMEN… PUSHES DRUGZ ON NORMAL PEOPLE SO THAT THEY BE THE HEAD UP THE "SRAKA" LIKE YOU! THE NEWSPAPERS ARE FULL OF WHAT YOU PROZAKIANS DO… NOT ENOUGH HU-MAN CHILDREN KILLED FOR YOU? WHY IS IT THAT YOU PROZAKIANS NEVER KILL YOUR OWN KIND, ONLY HUMANS? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sounds like a "sociopath". > We definitely need a NG called  alt.support.sociopath > There are tons of folks on the Internet who belong there. > Of course, by definition, they wouldn’t "support" each other very much. > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Disclaimer:  As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > herein > are not those of my employer.

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Wow.   A society that made Cigarettes legal.  A society that sticks caffeine in every known drink to man.   A society who consumes so much caffeine each day.  Which is a stimulant of the brain, which does cause withdrawl.   Uh, so that means it’s an addiction an upper.   The would make 3/4 of North America losers.  The fact is we as a world are addicted one way or another…  some, yes some of us are truly at one with the world and themselves.   Very few. But what is truly happyness?  Working 40+ hours a week, trying to make as much money as you can?  Shopping at Gap?  Buying a nice house, living in a nice neighbourhood?  Having a beer, watching the game?  Sex with the wife/girlfriend?  Having children? Smoking weed, while listening to pink floyd?  Or taking cocaine so you can work more hours at work, because you hope to get that raise.  Besides most people who can afford cocaine are the people who make this stuff illegal.   The same law makers that make weed illegal are the same people sucking on a joint while their secretary is sucking their dick. Some how as we age, we loose the grasp at looking at the two sides. Now using marijuana, cocaine, valium and such  is not the answer to happyness.  It just masks the truth for short periods of time.  There you are right.   But to give up on people who make mistakes, then we would simply have to pass up everyone. Boy now only if we could have a drug that makes people social… oh wait.. alcohol.  dang..  I wanted to invent that one. I dunno its just my opinion. Take it easy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> benzo’s are happiness pills just like pot and cocaine. if happiness > could be created via chemicals, valium or pot would not have been so > thoroughly discredited. life is brutally hard, and weak people will > always grab for these pretend solutions. drug addicts are losers and > should allowed to overdose. they want to die. let them. psychiatrists > are evil.

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Do you think her liberal loser b/f would make her swallow all her pillz and then defecate in her mouth to help her swallow them?  I do.  =) What else is the bitch good for? I love fucking with E — headcases are such an easy touch.  =) V > benzo’s are happiness pills just like pot and cocaine. if happiness > could be created via chemicals, valium or pot would not have been so > thoroughly discredited. life is brutally hard, and weak people will > always grab for these pretend solutions. drug addicts are losers and > should allowed to overdose. they want to die. let them. psychiatrists > are evil. >   "flight ofthe phoenix"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Rapaport M, Braff DL. > > Alprazolam and Hostility. > > American Journal of Psychiatry 1985; 142: 146. > > " Monoamine oxidase inhibitors suppress the REM sleep and are > correlated > > with patient > > self-reports of decreased dreaming. Recently we treated a patient > who said > > she began having > > violent sadomasochistic nightmares and the return of self-mutilatory > > impulses after 0.25 mg t.i.d. > > of alprazolam was added to her regimen of tranylcypromine, 30 > mg/day. Both > > the patients > > sadomasochistic nightmares and her self-mutilatory impulses ceased > 24 > hours > > after her last dose of > > alprazolam." > > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, nightmares] > > Regestein QR, Reich P. > > Agitation Observed During Treatment with Newer Hypnotic Drugs. > > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1985; 46: 280-283. > > Side effects involving agitation, e.g. sleepwalking, anger, and > panic, > were > > observed in 10 > > insomniac patients treated with temazepam or triazolam but not other > > benzodiazepines. Each > > patient described these side effects as uncharacteristic. Milder > agitation > > was observed in 2 cases. > > In 4 cases, these effects were doubted by the precribing physician. > This > > type of side effect has > > been only slowly recognised for other benzodiazepines and has not > been > much > > reported for these > > newer agents. Agitation observed during treatment with these agents > may be > > related to their short > > elimination half-lives. [SUMMARY p. 280] > > [Key words; Halcion, Euhypnos, Normison, triazolam, temazepam, > anxiety, > > aggression, hostility, > > paradoxical effects] > > Rejent TA, Wahl KC. > > Diazepam Abuse: Incidence, Rapid Screening and Confirming Methods. > > Clinical Chemistry 1976; 22: 889-891. > > " The abuse of drugs continues unabated in the United States. > Awareness of > > "hard drug" use > > predominates in the news media and funded programs, but the facts > concerning > > other drug misuse > > are generally hidden. Diazepam (and probably others) are heavily > misused, > > but are not the > > subject of critical editorialization." > > " Highly prescribed psychotropic drugs can easily end up in the > hands of > > many others. Therefore, > > the clinical analyst should be aware of drug popularity, which in > our > > present society leads to > > overuse, abuse, and often requires medical intervention in a > clinical > > emergency . " [p. 891] > > [Key words; addiction, abuse, dependence] > > Rementeria JL, Bhat K. > > Withdrawal Symptoms in Neonates From Intrauterine Exposure to > > Diazepam. > > Journal of Pediatrics 1977; 90: 123-126. > > Three infants are presented who had withdrawal symptoms after > prolonged, > > intrauterine > > exposure to diazepam. Symptoms, clinical course, management, and > laboratory > > findings are > > described. Some physiologic aspects of diazepam in the fetus and > neonate > are > > discussed. One > > infant died at six weeks of age; death was attributed to the sudden > infant > > death syndrome. > > [ABSTRACT p.123] > > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, dependence, withdrawal, infants, > pregnancy] > > Rickels K, Case WG, Schweizer EE, Swenson C, Fridman RB. > > Low-Dose Dependence in Chronic Benzodiazepine Users: A Preliminary > > Report on 119 Patients. > > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1986; 22: 407-415. > > " In fact, one hard-earned lesson is that long-term BZ users are in > need > of > > much more intensive > > psychiatric and social support than other anxious or depressed > patients. " > > [p. 414] > > [Key words; long-term effects] > > Rickels K, Schweizer E, Case G, Greenblatt DJ. > > Long-Term Therapeutic Use of Benzodiazepines. I. Effects of Abrupt > > Discontinuation. > > Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: 899-907. > > " Patients who were able to remain free of benzodiazepines for at > least 5 > > weeks obtained lower > > levels of anxiety than before benzodiazepine discontinuation. " [p. > 899] > > [Key words; long-term effects, detoxification] > > Rigby J, Harvey M, Davies DR. > > Mania Precipitated by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > > Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 1989; 79: 406-407. > > A case of mania following abrupt benzodiazepine withdrawal in an > 83-year-old > > woman is > > described. It is argued that the withdrawal state acted as a > significant > > life event in precipitating the > > manic episode. [ABSTRACT p. 406] > > [Key words; Ativan, lorazepam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, > mania] > > Risse SC, Whitters A, Burke J, Chen S, Scurfield RM, Raskind MA. > > Severe Withdrawal Symptoms after Discontinuation of Alprazolam in > Eight > > Patients with Combat-Induced Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. > > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1990; 51: 206-209. > > Eight patients with combat-induced posttraumatic stress disorder > (PTSD) > > receiving long-term > > alprazolam therapy for anxiety or depression (maximum dose of 2-9 > mg/day > for > > 1-5 years) had > > alprazolam therapy withdrawn. Most of the patients underwent gradual > > medication withdrawal. > > All patients had a prior history of alcohol abuse or benzodiazepine > > dependence. During > > withdrawal, all patients had severe reactions including anxiety, > sleep > > disturbance, rage reactions, > > hyperalertness, increased nightmares, and intrusive thoughts; and 6 > of the > 8 > > patient s had > > homicidal ideation. As a result of this report, the authors suggest > that > the > > potential for severe > > withdrawal reactions, even with gradual tapering, should be > considered > > before prescribing > > alprazolam therapy for this group of patients. [ABSTRACT p. 206] > > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, > > detoxification, hostility, > > aggression, nightmares, insomnia] > > Rivas F, Hernandez A, Cantu JM. > > Acentric Craniofacial Cleft in a Newborn Female Prenatally Exposed > to a > > High Dose of Diazepam. > > Teratology 1984; 30: 179-180. > > A newborn female with craniofacial clefts, including cleft lip and > palate, > > was studied. The mother > > had ingested 580 mg of diazepam in a single dose at about the 43rd > day of > > gestation. The > > synchronism of drug intake and the embryological development of the > affected > > structures suggests > > an etiopathogenic relationship. [ABSTRACT p. 179] > > [Key words; teratogenic effects, infants] > > Roberts K, Vass N. > > Schneiderian First-Rank Symptoms Caused by Benzodiazepine > Withdrawal. > > British Journal of Psychiatry 1986; 148: 593-594. > > Benzodiazepine withdrawal has been found to give rise to numerous > physical > > and psychological > > symptoms. This paper describes, for the first time, Schneiderian > first-rank > > symptoms of > > schizophrenia caused by such withdrawal. [SUMMARY p. 593] > > [Key words; addiction, withdrawal, abuse, dependence, withdrawal > psychosis] > > Roche Products Inc. Manati, Puerto Rico. > > " The effectiveness of Valium in long-term use, that is, more than 4 > months, > > has not been assessed by systematic clinical studies. " [p.893] > > [ In advertisement for "Valium", Archives of General Psychiatry > 1990; 47: > > 893.] > > " SIDE EFFECTS: Drowsiness, confusion, diplopia, hypotension, > changes in > > libido, nausea, > > fatigue, depression, dysarthria, jaundice, skin rash, ataxia, > constipation, > > headache, incontinence, > > changes in salivation, slurred speech, tremor, vertigo, urinary > retention, > > blurred vision. > > Paradoxical reactions such as acute hyperexcited states, anxiety, > > hallucinations, increased muscle > > spasticity, insomnia, rage, sleep disturbances, stimulation have > been > > reported; should these occur, > > discontinue drug. " > > Romney DM, Angus WR. > > A Brief Review of the Effects of Diazepam on Memory. > > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1984; 20: 313-316. > > " Moreover, it [i.e. diazepam] appears to produce side effects, > previously > > unnoticed, both on > > mood, causing depression and rage, and on cognitive and psychomotor > > functioning. " [p. 313] > > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, depression, aggression, cognitive > impairment, > > psychomotor > > impairment] > > Ross M. > > Lorazepam-Associated Drug Dependence. > > Journal of the Royal College of General Practioners 1986; February: > 86. > > " I should like to draw attention to what, in my opinion, are the > > unequivocal risks of > > lorazepam-associated drug dependence and exaggerated withdrawal > symptoms. > In

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benzo’s are happiness pills just like pot and cocaine. if happiness could be created via chemicals, valium or pot would not have been so thoroughly discredited. life is brutally hard, and weak people will always grab for these pretend solutions. drug addicts are losers and should allowed to overdose. they want to die. let them. psychiatrists are evil. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Rapaport M, Braff DL. > Alprazolam and Hostility. > American Journal of Psychiatry 1985; 142: 146. > " Monoamine oxidase inhibitors suppress the REM sleep and are correlated > with patient > self-reports of decreased dreaming. Recently we treated a patient who said > she began having > violent sadomasochistic nightmares and the return of self-mutilatory > impulses after 0.25 mg t.i.d. > of alprazolam was added to her regimen of tranylcypromine, 30 mg/day. Both > the patients > sadomasochistic nightmares and her self-mutilatory impulses ceased 24 > hours > after her last dose of > alprazolam." > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, nightmares] > Regestein QR, Reich P. > Agitation Observed During Treatment with Newer Hypnotic Drugs. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1985; 46: 280-283. > Side effects involving agitation, e.g. sleepwalking, anger, and panic, > were > observed in 10 > insomniac patients treated with temazepam or triazolam but not other > benzodiazepines. Each > patient described these side effects as uncharacteristic. Milder agitation > was observed in 2 cases. > In 4 cases, these effects were doubted by the precribing physician. This > type of side effect has > been only slowly recognised for other benzodiazepines and has not been > much > reported for these > newer agents. Agitation observed during treatment with these agents may be > related to their short > elimination half-lives. [SUMMARY p. 280] > [Key words; Halcion, Euhypnos, Normison, triazolam, temazepam, anxiety, > aggression, hostility, > paradoxical effects] > Rejent TA, Wahl KC. > Diazepam Abuse: Incidence, Rapid Screening and Confirming Methods. > Clinical Chemistry 1976; 22: 889-891. > " The abuse of drugs continues unabated in the United States. Awareness of > "hard drug" use > predominates in the news media and funded programs, but the facts > concerning > other drug misuse > are generally hidden. Diazepam (and probably others) are heavily misused, > but are not the > subject of critical editorialization." > " Highly prescribed psychotropic drugs can easily end up in the hands of > many others. Therefore, > the clinical analyst should be aware of drug popularity, which in our > present society leads to > overuse, abuse, and often requires medical intervention in a clinical > emergency . " [p. 891] > [Key words; addiction, abuse, dependence] > Rementeria JL, Bhat K. > Withdrawal Symptoms in Neonates From Intrauterine Exposure to > Diazepam. > Journal of Pediatrics 1977; 90: 123-126. > Three infants are presented who had withdrawal symptoms after prolonged, > intrauterine > exposure to diazepam. Symptoms, clinical course, management, and > laboratory > findings are > described. Some physiologic aspects of diazepam in the fetus and neonate > are > discussed. One > infant died at six weeks of age; death was attributed to the sudden infant > death syndrome. > [ABSTRACT p.123] > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, dependence, withdrawal, infants, pregnancy] > Rickels K, Case WG, Schweizer EE, Swenson C, Fridman RB. > Low-Dose Dependence in Chronic Benzodiazepine Users: A Preliminary > Report on 119 Patients. > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1986; 22: 407-415. > " In fact, one hard-earned lesson is that long-term BZ users are in need > of > much more intensive > psychiatric and social support than other anxious or depressed patients. " > [p. 414] > [Key words; long-term effects] > Rickels K, Schweizer E, Case G, Greenblatt DJ. > Long-Term Therapeutic Use of Benzodiazepines. I. Effects of Abrupt > Discontinuation. > Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: 899-907. > " Patients who were able to remain free of benzodiazepines for at least 5 > weeks obtained lower > levels of anxiety than before benzodiazepine discontinuation. " [p. 899] > [Key words; long-term effects, detoxification] > Rigby J, Harvey M, Davies DR. > Mania Precipitated by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 1989; 79: 406-407. > A case of mania following abrupt benzodiazepine withdrawal in an > 83-year-old > woman is > described. It is argued that the withdrawal state acted as a significant > life event in precipitating the > manic episode. [ABSTRACT p. 406] > [Key words; Ativan, lorazepam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, mania] > Risse SC, Whitters A, Burke J, Chen S, Scurfield RM, Raskind MA. > Severe Withdrawal Symptoms after Discontinuation of Alprazolam in Eight > Patients with Combat-Induced Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1990; 51: 206-209. > Eight patients with combat-induced posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) > receiving long-term > alprazolam therapy for anxiety or depression (maximum dose of 2-9 mg/day > for > 1-5 years) had > alprazolam therapy withdrawn. Most of the patients underwent gradual > medication withdrawal. > All patients had a prior history of alcohol abuse or benzodiazepine > dependence. During > withdrawal, all patients had severe reactions including anxiety, sleep > disturbance, rage reactions, > hyperalertness, increased nightmares, and intrusive thoughts; and 6 of the > 8 > patient s had > homicidal ideation. As a result of this report, the authors suggest that > the > potential for severe > withdrawal reactions, even with gradual tapering, should be considered > before prescribing > alprazolam therapy for this group of patients. [ABSTRACT p. 206] > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, > detoxification, hostility, > aggression, nightmares, insomnia] > Rivas F, Hernandez A, Cantu JM. > Acentric Craniofacial Cleft in a Newborn Female Prenatally Exposed to a > High Dose of Diazepam. > Teratology 1984; 30: 179-180. > A newborn female with craniofacial clefts, including cleft lip and palate, > was studied. The mother > had ingested 580 mg of diazepam in a single dose at about the 43rd day of > gestation. The > synchronism of drug intake and the embryological development of the > affected > structures suggests > an etiopathogenic relationship. [ABSTRACT p. 179] > [Key words; teratogenic effects, infants] > Roberts K, Vass N. > Schneiderian First-Rank Symptoms Caused by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > British Journal of Psychiatry 1986; 148: 593-594. > Benzodiazepine withdrawal has been found to give rise to numerous physical > and psychological > symptoms. This paper describes, for the first time, Schneiderian > first-rank > symptoms of > schizophrenia caused by such withdrawal. [SUMMARY p. 593] > [Key words; addiction, withdrawal, abuse, dependence, withdrawal > psychosis] > Roche Products Inc. Manati, Puerto Rico. > " The effectiveness of Valium in long-term use, that is, more than 4 > months, > has not been assessed by systematic clinical studies. " [p.893] > [ In advertisement for "Valium", Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: > 893.] > " SIDE EFFECTS: Drowsiness, confusion, diplopia, hypotension, changes in > libido, nausea, > fatigue, depression, dysarthria, jaundice, skin rash, ataxia, > constipation, > headache, incontinence, > changes in salivation, slurred speech, tremor, vertigo, urinary retention, > blurred vision. > Paradoxical reactions such as acute hyperexcited states, anxiety, > hallucinations, increased muscle > spasticity, insomnia, rage, sleep disturbances, stimulation have been > reported; should these occur, > discontinue drug. " > Romney DM, Angus WR. > A Brief Review of the Effects of Diazepam on Memory. > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1984; 20: 313-316. > " Moreover, it [i.e. diazepam] appears to produce side effects, previously > unnoticed, both on > mood, causing depression and rage, and on cognitive and psychomotor > functioning. " [p. 313] > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, depression, aggression, cognitive > impairment, > psychomotor > impairment] > Ross M. > Lorazepam-Associated Drug Dependence. > Journal of the Royal College of General Practioners 1986; February: 86. > " I should like to draw attention to what, in my opinion, are the > unequivocal risks of > lorazepam-associated drug dependence and exaggerated withdrawal symptoms. > In > my > experience, this can occur often with low dosage, short courses and for > many > months after > cessation of therapy. > It is common to find other general practioners and psychiatrists who share > this view and there is > also widespread lay awareness of the problem. For the last year and a half > I > have been > communicating with the Committee on Safety of Medicines about the problem. > They answer that > they have received few yellow card reports on this problem. > My personal view is that this is because doctors do not realise that > reporting an expected > side-effect of a drug is as useful for epidemiological purposes as is > reporting an unexpected > side-effect for general scientific purposes. I should like, therefore, to > appeal to all the general > practitioners who must be seeing this problem, to

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> Ricky: >     I don’t think that SSRIHater will answer your question because this is > one obviously messed up individual.  S/he needs help dealing with the > overwhelming compulsion to search for negative information about SSRIs and > trolling alt.support newsgroups.  What kind of thrill can a person get out > of making inflammatory posts towards people (1) with mental disorders and > (2) that s/he doesn’t even know personally?  A very special kind of person > … someone who is immature, who has never learned the social rules of > politeness, and who has never developed compassion toward his/her fellow > human beings.  

Sounds like a "sociopath". We definitely need a NG called  alt.support.sociopath There are tons of folks on the Internet who belong there. Of course, by definition, they wouldn’t "support" each other very much. — Steven D. Litvintchouk                   Disclaimer:  As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed herein             are not those of my employer.

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of this: :Answer the question SSRI. What’s up with you and your hate towards :SSRi’s. Hi there, Some newsreaders do not make it apparent when you crosspost. This guy you are replying to doesn’t care what he says or if his arguments have validity or not. What he does want is to make people mad and have them reply to him. He originally crossposted his message to as many NG as he can That would be offended by his message. On my newsgroup Alt.Support.Depression.manic most of us have him killfilled which means that his post are automatically trashed when they come in.  When you replied, you: 1.  Played into his hands and crossposted. 2.  Made his message visible to us at ASDM because you include his original message in your reply post. 3.  Made it obvious to all that you do not understand Trolls, which is what we call them because they trolls their messages trying to get a unknowing person to bite. You bit. Please do me this favor in return for me taking the time to educate you. Post to at least 10 people educating them. Make them promise to educate ten more in the same manner. I have explained this more times than I want to remember. Add them all together and I have literally wasted days of my time. (Satisfied Eric and Andrew and Fred?)  I want you to help me get the message out. It has to constantly be re explained to new people as they come here. Help me please. Hopper

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> Hi there, > Some newsreaders do not make it apparent when you crosspost. This guy > you are replying to doesn’t care what he says or if his arguments have > validity or not. What he does want is to make people mad and have them > reply to him.

Hopper, Thanks for explaining the troll game to the unknowing. Before my computer crashed 2 weeks ago, I had over 50 names in my killfile. also…. I also lost your phone number in the crash. Somebody goofed around with my caller ID when they were here too, and a *lot* of phone numbers got deleted. and… I anticipate that we both are about to receive a nice helping of snow! Wouldn’t it be fun to spark a hogleg on top of a snowy hill, sip down 2 cups of hot chocolate, then slide down on a cheap plastic sled?   Bonus points awarded for wreckless endangerment, LOL! Mark

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Ricky:     I don’t think that SSRIHater will answer your question because this is one obviously messed up individual.  S/he needs help dealing with the overwhelming compulsion to search for negative information about SSRIs and trolling alt.support newsgroups.  What kind of thrill can a person get out of making inflammatory posts towards people (1) with mental disorders and (2) that s/he doesn’t even know personally?  A very special kind of person … someone who is immature, who has never learned the social rules of politeness, and who has never developed compassion toward his/her fellow human beings.  I’d suggest long-term therapy to overcome these debilitating problems … it’s kind of sad really.     Lachryma

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> Ricky: >     I don’t think that SSRIHater will answer your question because this is > one obviously messed up individual.  S/he needs help dealing with the > overwhelming compulsion to search for negative information about SSRIs and > trolling alt.support newsgroups.  What kind of thrill can a person get out > of making inflammatory posts towards people (1) with mental disorders and > (2) that s/he doesn’t even know personally?  A very special kind of person > … someone who is immature, who has never learned the social rules of > politeness, and who has never developed compassion toward his/her fellow > human beings.  I’d suggest long-term therapy to overcome these debilitating > problems … it’s kind of sad really. >     Lachryma

SSRI Drugz too? What kind of drugz you eat? How much? How many years? You still crazy? Crazier yes? Pills no work? Please to report to Ukrainian Isolation Camps for Borg. Guard will escort you. First you put on this 5 point restraint jacket. You sick in mind.

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Answer the question SSRI. What’s up with you and your hate towards SSRi’s. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Rapaport M, Braff DL. > Alprazolam and Hostility. > American Journal of Psychiatry 1985; 142: 146. > " Monoamine oxidase inhibitors suppress the REM sleep and are correlated > with patient > self-reports of decreased dreaming. Recently we treated a patient who said > she began having > violent sadomasochistic nightmares and the return of self-mutilatory > impulses after 0.25 mg t.i.d. > of alprazolam was added to her regimen of tranylcypromine, 30 mg/day. Both > the patients > sadomasochistic nightmares and her self-mutilatory impulses ceased 24 >hours > after her last dose of > alprazolam." > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, nightmares] > Regestein QR, Reich P. > Agitation Observed During Treatment with Newer Hypnotic Drugs. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1985; 46: 280-283. > Side effects involving agitation, e.g. sleepwalking, anger, and panic, >were > observed in 10 > insomniac patients treated with temazepam or triazolam but not other > benzodiazepines. Each > patient described these side effects as uncharacteristic. Milder agitation > was observed in 2 cases. > In 4 cases, these effects were doubted by the precribing physician. This > type of side effect has > been only slowly recognised for other benzodiazepines and has not been >much > reported for these > newer agents. Agitation observed during treatment with these agents may be > related to their short > elimination half-lives. [SUMMARY p. 280] > [Key words; Halcion, Euhypnos, Normison, triazolam, temazepam, anxiety, > aggression, hostility, > paradoxical effects] > Rejent TA, Wahl KC. > Diazepam Abuse: Incidence, Rapid Screening and Confirming Methods. > Clinical Chemistry 1976; 22: 889-891. > " The abuse of drugs continues unabated in the United States. Awareness of > "hard drug" use > predominates in the news media and funded programs, but the facts >concerning > other drug misuse > are generally hidden. Diazepam (and probably others) are heavily misused, > but are not the > subject of critical editorialization." > " Highly prescribed psychotropic drugs can easily end up in the hands of > many others. Therefore, > the clinical analyst should be aware of drug popularity, which in our > present society leads to > overuse, abuse, and often requires medical intervention in a clinical > emergency . " [p. 891] > [Key words; addiction, abuse, dependence] > Rementeria JL, Bhat K. > Withdrawal Symptoms in Neonates From Intrauterine Exposure to > Diazepam. > Journal of Pediatrics 1977; 90: 123-126. > Three infants are presented who had withdrawal symptoms after prolonged, > intrauterine > exposure to diazepam. Symptoms, clinical course, management, and >laboratory > findings are > described. Some physiologic aspects of diazepam in the fetus and neonate >are > discussed. One > infant died at six weeks of age; death was attributed to the sudden infant > death syndrome. > [ABSTRACT p.123] > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, dependence, withdrawal, infants, pregnancy] > Rickels K, Case WG, Schweizer EE, Swenson C, Fridman RB. > Low-Dose Dependence in Chronic Benzodiazepine Users: A Preliminary > Report on 119 Patients. > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1986; 22: 407-415. > " In fact, one hard-earned lesson is that long-term BZ users are in need >of > much more intensive > psychiatric and social support than other anxious or depressed patients. " > [p. 414] > [Key words; long-term effects] > Rickels K, Schweizer E, Case G, Greenblatt DJ. > Long-Term Therapeutic Use of Benzodiazepines. I. Effects of Abrupt > Discontinuation. > Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: 899-907. > " Patients who were able to remain free of benzodiazepines for at least 5 > weeks obtained lower > levels of anxiety than before benzodiazepine discontinuation. " [p. 899] > [Key words; long-term effects, detoxification] > Rigby J, Harvey M, Davies DR. > Mania Precipitated by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 1989; 79: 406-407. > A case of mania following abrupt benzodiazepine withdrawal in an >83-year-old > woman is > described. It is argued that the withdrawal state acted as a significant > life event in precipitating the > manic episode. [ABSTRACT p. 406] > [Key words; Ativan, lorazepam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, mania] > Risse SC, Whitters A, Burke J, Chen S, Scurfield RM, Raskind MA. > Severe Withdrawal Symptoms after Discontinuation of Alprazolam in Eight > Patients with Combat-Induced Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1990; 51: 206-209. > Eight patients with combat-induced posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) > receiving long-term > alprazolam therapy for anxiety or depression (maximum dose of 2-9 mg/day >for > 1-5 years) had > alprazolam therapy withdrawn. Most of the patients underwent gradual > medication withdrawal. > All patients had a prior history of alcohol abuse or benzodiazepine > dependence. During > withdrawal, all patients had severe reactions including anxiety, sleep > disturbance, rage reactions, > hyperalertness, increased nightmares, and intrusive thoughts; and 6 of the >8 > patient s had > homicidal ideation. As a result of this report, the authors suggest that >the > potential for severe > withdrawal reactions, even with gradual tapering, should be considered > before prescribing > alprazolam therapy for this group of patients. [ABSTRACT p. 206] > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, > detoxification, hostility, > aggression, nightmares, insomnia] > Rivas F, Hernandez A, Cantu JM. > Acentric Craniofacial Cleft in a Newborn Female Prenatally Exposed to a > High Dose of Diazepam. > Teratology 1984; 30: 179-180. > A newborn female with craniofacial clefts, including cleft lip and palate, > was studied. The mother > had ingested 580 mg of diazepam in a single dose at about the 43rd day of > gestation. The > synchronism of drug intake and the embryological development of the >affected > structures suggests > an etiopathogenic relationship. [ABSTRACT p. 179] > [Key words; teratogenic effects, infants] > Roberts K, Vass N. > Schneiderian First-Rank Symptoms Caused by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > British Journal of Psychiatry 1986; 148: 593-594. > Benzodiazepine withdrawal has been found to give rise to numerous physical > and psychological > symptoms. This paper describes, for the first time, Schneiderian >first-rank > symptoms of > schizophrenia caused by such withdrawal. [SUMMARY p. 593] > [Key words; addiction, withdrawal, abuse, dependence, withdrawal >psychosis] > Roche Products Inc. Manati, Puerto Rico. > " The effectiveness of Valium in long-term use, that is, more than 4 >months, > has not been assessed by systematic clinical studies. " [p.893] > [ In advertisement for "Valium", Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: > 893.] > " SIDE EFFECTS: Drowsiness, confusion, diplopia, hypotension, changes in > libido, nausea, > fatigue, depression, dysarthria, jaundice, skin rash, ataxia, >constipation, > headache, incontinence, > changes in salivation, slurred speech, tremor, vertigo, urinary retention, > blurred vision. > Paradoxical reactions such as acute hyperexcited states, anxiety, > hallucinations, increased muscle > spasticity, insomnia, rage, sleep disturbances, stimulation have been > reported; should these occur, > discontinue drug. " > Romney DM, Angus WR. > A Brief Review of the Effects of Diazepam on Memory. > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1984; 20: 313-316. > " Moreover, it [i.e. diazepam] appears to produce side effects, previously > unnoticed, both on > mood, causing depression and rage, and on cognitive and psychomotor > functioning. " [p. 313] > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, depression, aggression, cognitive >impairment, > psychomotor > impairment] > Ross M. > Lorazepam-Associated Drug Dependence. > Journal of the Royal College of General Practioners 1986; February: 86. > " I should like to draw attention to what, in my opinion, are the > unequivocal risks of > lorazepam-associated drug dependence and exaggerated withdrawal symptoms. >In > my > experience, this can occur often with low dosage, short courses and for >many > months after > cessation of therapy. > It is common to find other general practioners and psychiatrists who share > this view and there is > also widespread lay awareness of the problem. For the last year and a half >I > have been > communicating with the Committee on Safety of Medicines about the problem. > They answer that > they have received few yellow card reports on this problem. > My personal view is that this is because doctors do not realise that > reporting an expected > side-effect of a drug is as useful for epidemiological purposes as is > reporting an unexpected > side-effect for general scientific purposes. I should like, therefore, to > appeal to all the general > practitioners who must be seeing this problem, to report any cases to the > Committee on Safety of > Medicines. " [p. 86] > [Key words; Ativan, lorazepam, addiction, dependence, abuse, withdrawal] > Rosenbaum JF, SW Woods, Groves JE, Klerman GL. > Emergence of Hostility During Alprazolam Treatment. > American Journal of Psychiatry 1984; 141: 792-793. > Of 80 patients given alprazolam, eight became hostile early in treatment. > The authors suggest that > alprazolam-induced hostility may be more likely in patients with > well-suppressed chronic anger > and

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Rapaport M, Braff DL. > Alprazolam and Hostility. > American Journal of Psychiatry 1985; 142: 146. > " Monoamine oxidase inhibitors suppress the REM sleep and are correlated > with patient > self-reports of decreased dreaming. Recently we treated a patient who said > she began having > violent sadomasochistic nightmares and the return of self-mutilatory > impulses after 0.25 mg t.i.d. > of alprazolam was added to her regimen of tranylcypromine, 30 mg/day. Both > the patients > sadomasochistic nightmares and her self-mutilatory impulses ceased 24 hours > after her last dose of > alprazolam." > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, nightmares] > Regestein QR, Reich P. > Agitation Observed During Treatment with Newer Hypnotic Drugs. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1985; 46: 280-283. > Side effects involving agitation, e.g. sleepwalking, anger, and panic, were > observed in 10 > insomniac patients treated with temazepam or triazolam but not other > benzodiazepines. Each > patient described these side effects as uncharacteristic. Milder agitation > was observed in 2 cases. > In 4 cases, these effects were doubted by the precribing physician. This > type of side effect has > been only slowly recognised for other benzodiazepines and has not been much > reported for these > newer agents. Agitation observed during treatment with these agents may be > related to their short > elimination half-lives. [SUMMARY p. 280] > [Key words; Halcion, Euhypnos, Normison, triazolam, temazepam, anxiety, > aggression, hostility, > paradoxical effects] > Rejent TA, Wahl KC. > Diazepam Abuse: Incidence, Rapid Screening and Confirming Methods. > Clinical Chemistry 1976; 22: 889-891. > " The abuse of drugs continues unabated in the United States. Awareness of > "hard drug" use > predominates in the news media and funded programs, but the facts concerning > other drug misuse > are generally hidden. Diazepam (and probably others) are heavily misused, > but are not the > subject of critical editorialization." > " Highly prescribed psychotropic drugs can easily end up in the hands of > many others. Therefore, > the clinical analyst should be aware of drug popularity, which in our > present society leads to > overuse, abuse, and often requires medical intervention in a clinical > emergency . " [p. 891] > [Key words; addiction, abuse, dependence] > Rementeria JL, Bhat K. > Withdrawal Symptoms in Neonates From Intrauterine Exposure to > Diazepam. > Journal of Pediatrics 1977; 90: 123-126. > Three infants are presented who had withdrawal symptoms after prolonged, > intrauterine > exposure to diazepam. Symptoms, clinical course, management, and laboratory > findings are > described. Some physiologic aspects of diazepam in the fetus and neonate are > discussed. One > infant died at six weeks of age; death was attributed to the sudden infant > death syndrome. > [ABSTRACT p.123] > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, dependence, withdrawal, infants, pregnancy] > Rickels K, Case WG, Schweizer EE, Swenson C, Fridman RB. > Low-Dose Dependence in Chronic Benzodiazepine Users: A Preliminary > Report on 119 Patients. > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1986; 22: 407-415. > " In fact, one hard-earned lesson is that long-term BZ users are in need of > much more intensive > psychiatric and social support than other anxious or depressed patients. " > [p. 414] > [Key words; long-term effects] > Rickels K, Schweizer E, Case G, Greenblatt DJ. > Long-Term Therapeutic Use of Benzodiazepines. I. Effects of Abrupt > Discontinuation. > Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: 899-907. > " Patients who were able to remain free of benzodiazepines for at least 5 > weeks obtained lower > levels of anxiety than before benzodiazepine discontinuation. " [p. 899] > [Key words; long-term effects, detoxification] > Rigby J, Harvey M, Davies DR. > Mania Precipitated by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 1989; 79: 406-407. > A case of mania following abrupt benzodiazepine withdrawal in an 83-year-old > woman is > described. It is argued that the withdrawal state acted as a significant > life event in precipitating the > manic episode. [ABSTRACT p. 406] > [Key words; Ativan, lorazepam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, mania] > Risse SC, Whitters A, Burke J, Chen S, Scurfield RM, Raskind MA. > Severe Withdrawal Symptoms after Discontinuation of Alprazolam in Eight > Patients with Combat-Induced Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1990; 51: 206-209. > Eight patients with combat-induced posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) > receiving long-term > alprazolam therapy for anxiety or depression (maximum dose of 2-9 mg/day for > 1-5 years) had > alprazolam therapy withdrawn. Most of the patients underwent gradual > medication withdrawal. > All patients had a prior history of alcohol abuse or benzodiazepine > dependence. During > withdrawal, all patients had severe reactions including anxiety, sleep > disturbance, rage reactions, > hyperalertness, increased nightmares, and intrusive thoughts; and 6 of the 8 > patient s had > homicidal ideation. As a result of this report, the authors suggest that the > potential for severe > withdrawal reactions, even with gradual tapering, should be considered > before prescribing > alprazolam therapy for this group of patients. [ABSTRACT p. 206] > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, addiction, dependence, withdrawal, > detoxification, hostility, > aggression, nightmares, insomnia] > Rivas F, Hernandez A, Cantu JM. > Acentric Craniofacial Cleft in a Newborn Female Prenatally Exposed to a > High Dose of Diazepam. > Teratology 1984; 30: 179-180. > A newborn female with craniofacial clefts, including cleft lip and palate, > was studied. The mother > had ingested 580 mg of diazepam in a single dose at about the 43rd day of > gestation. The > synchronism of drug intake and the embryological development of the affected > structures suggests > an etiopathogenic relationship. [ABSTRACT p. 179] > [Key words; teratogenic effects, infants] > Roberts K, Vass N. > Schneiderian First-Rank Symptoms Caused by Benzodiazepine Withdrawal. > British Journal of Psychiatry 1986; 148: 593-594. > Benzodiazepine withdrawal has been found to give rise to numerous physical > and psychological > symptoms. This paper describes, for the first time, Schneiderian first-rank > symptoms of > schizophrenia caused by such withdrawal. [SUMMARY p. 593] > [Key words; addiction, withdrawal, abuse, dependence, withdrawal psychosis] > Roche Products Inc. Manati, Puerto Rico. > " The effectiveness of Valium in long-term use, that is, more than 4 months, > has not been assessed by systematic clinical studies. " [p.893] > [ In advertisement for "Valium", Archives of General Psychiatry 1990; 47: > 893.] > " SIDE EFFECTS: Drowsiness, confusion, diplopia, hypotension, changes in > libido, nausea, > fatigue, depression, dysarthria, jaundice, skin rash, ataxia, constipation, > headache, incontinence, > changes in salivation, slurred speech, tremor, vertigo, urinary retention, > blurred vision. > Paradoxical reactions such as acute hyperexcited states, anxiety, > hallucinations, increased muscle > spasticity, insomnia, rage, sleep disturbances, stimulation have been > reported; should these occur, > discontinue drug. " > Romney DM, Angus WR. > A Brief Review of the Effects of Diazepam on Memory. > Psychopharmacology Bulletin 1984; 20: 313-316. > " Moreover, it [i.e. diazepam] appears to produce side effects, previously > unnoticed, both on > mood, causing depression and rage, and on cognitive and psychomotor > functioning. " [p. 313] > [Key words; Valium, diazepam, depression, aggression, cognitive impairment, > psychomotor > impairment] > Ross M. > Lorazepam-Associated Drug Dependence. > Journal of the Royal College of General Practioners 1986; February: 86. > " I should like to draw attention to what, in my opinion, are the > unequivocal risks of > lorazepam-associated drug dependence and exaggerated withdrawal symptoms. In > my > experience, this can occur often with low dosage, short courses and for many > months after > cessation of therapy. > It is common to find other general practioners and psychiatrists who share > this view and there is > also widespread lay awareness of the problem. For the last year and a half I > have been > communicating with the Committee on Safety of Medicines about the problem. > They answer that > they have received few yellow card reports on this problem. > My personal view is that this is because doctors do not realise that > reporting an expected > side-effect of a drug is as useful for epidemiological purposes as is > reporting an unexpected > side-effect for general scientific purposes. I should like, therefore, to > appeal to all the general > practitioners who must be seeing this problem, to report any cases to the > Committee on Safety of > Medicines. " [p. 86] > [Key words; Ativan, lorazepam, addiction, dependence, abuse, withdrawal] > Rosenbaum JF, SW Woods, Groves JE, Klerman GL. > Emergence of Hostility During Alprazolam Treatment. > American Journal of Psychiatry 1984; 141: 792-793. > Of 80 patients given alprazolam, eight became hostile early in treatment. > The authors suggest that > alprazolam-induced hostility may be more likely in patients with > well-suppressed chronic anger > and resentment and cite reports of hostility associated with other > benzodiazepines. [SUMMARY > p. 792] > [Key words; Xanax, alprazolam, aggression, paradoxical effects] > Rowlatt RJ. > Effects of Maternal Diazepam. > BMJ 1978; 1: 985. > " High doses (30 mg or more) of diazepam administered during labour cause, > in the infant, failure > to start breathing, shallow, inadequate respirations, periodic cessations of > respiration, floppiness, > subnormal

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